Posted on 07/25/2002 5:31:43 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
what point?
Wrong. The schismatic right was opposing the Ecumenical Council. the Pope, Canon Law, Encyclicals LONG before TCRnews was launched
The Angelus has published that the normative Mass does not fulfill one's Sunday obligation as it is invalid. Telling supporters of the sspx schism that the Catholic Church has a normative Mass that is invalid is described as what, in your vocabulary
"Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.." :) S.H. has never judged another's soul nor is he judging motive. He is describing actions that indicate, to him, the path that certain individuals are on.
It USED to be considered a "traditional" idea that one would warn others of the proximate danger their actions might lead to
I think you are "too close" to the conflict to judge it accurately
I read Cardinal Dulles' article. He doesn't seem to concede any points at all.
sitetest
That was standard boilerplate rhetoric for Encyclicals of that time. There is another Encyclical of that time that uses the same language in warning others not to change the brievary. Of course, it was changed but we don't hear schismatics ranting about that - prolly cause Michael Davies hasn't written an essay about that.
It seems very presumptuous for you to be judging the soul Archbishop Lefbvre. Where's the "John Paul II We Love You" crowd in extendeing charity to Lefbvre?
I didn't judge his soul. Charity was extended to Lefebvre in a monumental fashion. It was never returned. Rome wen the extra 10,000 miles trying to accomodate him.
Its only been a couple days since I openly proclaimed my identity here on FRee Republic, and re-posted the HTML on my profile page. Already the hateful internet emails have resumed. Here's one from yesterday:
After reading your "culture of death" article (which I accidentally stumbled across) I feel very sorry for you. It seems that your feeling of self-worth is wrapped tightly to your heavy-handed judgment of other people. You claim to be a Roman Catholic, yet in your article you seem to ignore the teachings of Jesus Christ concerning judgments, forgiveness, humility and charity.
By your photograph it seems that you have an eating disorder. Such things say much ... much more than words ... about how a person really feels about him- or herself. Seek spiritual healing and it will manifest physically in your person. Teach from the heart, not from ritual or from formulaic and unchallenged generalizations.
I am glad that you love your children and happy for them that they have a loving father. But just consider ...
thousands, perhaps millions of people are being saved right now in Africa because of contraception;
loving gay and lesbian couples are giving to each other, to their churches and to their communities the only way they can. [Are you aware that some of the heroes of 9/11 were gay?] Perhaps a gay man or a lesbian woman will one day save your life, or your child's life. Would you still damn him or her to hell?
There may be nothing I can write in this e-mail message that will help you. But then again, maybe something I write will get you thinking. Small town doesn't matter. Small mind does.
I mean you no harm. In fact, I wish you well and leave you with a blessing. To the extent I have judged you, I apologize. To the extent my words may help you, I give thanks to God.
I wonder if its worth it...
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The bashers, those who don't understand or hate the faith, are one thing...but this recent phenomena of catholics tearing each other apart on the forum is much more discouraging IMO.
Frankly, there is always give and take among Catholic FReepers here. That is normal and healthy.
However, nerves are frayed beyond any semblance of normal by the homosexual abuse crisis in the Church. Some of us are actively dealing with and helping victims themselves, and in that respect its hard to stay objective. It is very disconcerting to hear these stories then see the lack of action by our hierarchy at and following Dallas to the homosexual roots of the crisis.
Everyone is searching for the root cause and possible solutions.
It serves no purpose to heap scorn on those honestly searching for answers.
And frankly, isn't it at least worth noting that the worst examples of this recent phenomena of catholics tearing each other apart on the forum have revolved around either editorials by TCRNews.com or posts on the forum by their staffers, because of the way they are maligning good faithful Catholics seeking answers and solutions in their own humble way?
That is primarily my point in all of this.
I assume that you're referring to the Assyrian rite as heretical. If that's so, please explain why you consider them in heresy.
Thanks.
sitetest
This was happening LONG before S.H. signed on as a Freeper. Trying to make TCR responsible makes no sense. I take responsibility for my part in the arguement. I have decided to speak as forcefully and as persuasively as I can with and to those who oppose the Pope, the Magisterium, the normative Mass, Encyclicals. For me, the gloves are off and I don't accept the "no enemies on the right" idea because those on the right will NOT cease their criticism of The Magisterium and they specialise in attacking the Pope.
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