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To: Aliska
The happiest catholics I have met are liberals.

On this point, I would insist that you are confusing the superficial human emotion of happiness with the spiritual notion of JOY.

Liberals may be "happy" and full of luv, but they are never full of the Charity or the Joy of Christ.

I have seen many smiling alcoholics for instance, but they wre not really "happy."

You cannot be a liberal, which implies dissent, and be truly Joyful.

5 posted on 07/19/2002 5:35:24 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
If sexual autonomy is one’s goal, one will not want the traditional Mass as the central symbol of the Faith, for the very form it takes will always seem a reproach: one will want a pliable liturgy, something one can shape to one’s whims.

What exactly is Wilson trying to say in this statement? I truly find it almost bizarre.

Liberals may be "happy" and full of luv, but they are never full of the Charity or the Joy of Christ.

I have seen many smiling alcoholics for instance, but they wre not really "happy."

You cannot be a liberal, which implies dissent, and be truly Joyful.

So no Catholic can be a "liberal," in your view, without being unorthodox? And none can be full of the "Charity of Christ?" And liberals, in Catholicism, are like drunks?

It would surprise me if you didn't like a book by Paul Likoudis.

11 posted on 07/19/2002 5:57:50 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Polycarp
You cannot be a liberal, which implies dissent, and be truly Joyful.

Perhaps not. Overall they seemed more upbeat about church life. Spiritual joy is something that has eluded me, although I had happy, bubbly periods in my younger life, so I wouldn't know about that.

The way you describe it, happiness and spiritual joy are two different things.

19 posted on 07/19/2002 6:29:28 PM PDT by Aliska
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