[RnMomof7]

Calvinist BTTT

[Frumanchu]

Good article. I think limited atonement seems to be the point most argued about among us. The question is will anything new come of this round of debate, or will we all continue to bang our heads against the same old wall, slipping insults and prideful comments in when we can?:)

[irishtenor]

Great reading. Did you send it to all the "others"?

[jude24]

thanks for the bump.

This effectively summarizes the argument that led me to accept a 5-point position in my gradual evolution from Free-will to Calvinism.

I was led to see that there were two options: either an atonement in some way limited, or universal salvation -- even unbelievers would see their sins expiated in an unlimited atonement. Any exclusion of some group -- unbelievers, whatever - as regards the efficacy of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ -- would lead to a "limited atonement." From there, limiting that to the elect was easy to see.