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To: ninenot
Angels dancing on pins is an stereotypical criticism of scholaticism

ninot writes:

...utilized mostly by people who have never read Aquinas.

I believe that he did consider whether more than one angel could occupy the same space at the same time. I think he answered 'no', not because they occupied space (which, not being immaterial, they did not), but because two distinct causes could not each be the immediate cause of the same thing.
66 posted on 07/16/2002 11:53:00 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
Sorry, I meant to italicize nineot's typing, and indicate that the final paragraph is mine.
67 posted on 07/16/2002 11:54:05 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
...which somehow, somewhere relates either to higher mathematics or physics. My memory is that Jaki wrote on the topic in Homiletic & Pastoral Review a number of years ago...
75 posted on 07/17/2002 6:47:01 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: ninenot; Mike Fieschko
re:Angels dancing on pins is an stereotypical criticism of scholaticism

Presumably we've evolved to the more enlightened stage where it is debated whether pre-natal Homo sapiens about the size of a pin are "human" or not. Progress?

81 posted on 07/17/2002 7:27:39 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Mike Fieschko
that policies formed when women were considered inferior cannot survive in our day.

Most of you didn't seem to notice that the premise is false. Arguments and conclusions were based on the false premise.

In the Catholic tradition women are not considered inferior. The Blessed Mother is exalted as the most superior of all humans with only God above her. In the Catholic tradition, the birth, baptism and raising of the children within the faith is the role of the woman/mother, and is a position far superior to the breadwinner who seldom sees his kids, or the true priest who is a servant. She who rocks the cradle will rule the world.

Precisely because it is politically incorrect to hold this position of the superior role of the mother, the politically correct must belittle and lie about it. They create an alternate reality to replace it within the church. I personally have nothing against women in the priesthood. I come from a protestant tradition of the priesthood of the believer. But let's recognize the lies on which the other side argues its case.

If we get bogged down in contradicting their arguments and conclusions without questioning their false premise, then we will lose. For we depend on logic. They depend on emotion and feeling to win their argument, not logic.

87 posted on 07/17/2002 7:42:36 PM PDT by spintreebob
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