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To: BlackElk
I would say, The Church should do exactly what Our Lord wishes the Church to do, not one bit more nor one bit less.
26 posted on 07/15/2002 6:45:14 AM PDT by narses
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To: narses
Church should do exactly what Our Lord wishes the Church to do.

According to Wills, according to Oprah, or according to the Holy Father?

You see, how the authority in the Church works?
When one wants to listen “directly” to Jesus, His Word is very explicit,
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. ” (Mt. 16:19)
Whoever listens to you listens to me, and whoever rejects you rejects me, and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me. ” (Lk. 10:16)

Isn’t that something?

Even when the massmedia convince you, as they try real hard these days, that the Church is so corrupt that you must reject her authority, the authority is still unaffected.
Ponder this,
all they bid you to observe, that observe and do; but do not imitate their works: for they say, but do not do. ” (Mt. 23:3)

28 posted on 07/15/2002 8:04:36 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: narses
That's why the Holy Ghost effectuates the election of our popes. None of them perfect but each dependable as to doctrine, indeed infallible. If each of us volunteers to be his own pope, how do we avoid becoming a Catholic version of the maelstrom of disagreement that the reformation has become. I don't have a direct pipeline to the Lord and I suspect that a lot fewer people have such a pipeline than think they do. Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia.

BTW, God's plan may well not be yours or mine unassisted but it has to be better than either. It may well be that some popes have been chosen by the Holy Ghost as a necessary chastisement to us in our unbelief and that their prudential blunders have been turned to God's purposes.

May God bless you and yours.

33 posted on 07/15/2002 10:29:49 AM PDT by BlackElk
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