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To: Snuffington
The Church's position is that sex is an important part of ontological identity, and as such sees equality as a matter of value and dignity without needing to see this expressed identically between men and women. Mr. Wills rejects this notion, and therefore for him equality of value and dignity can only come when there is an accompanying sameness in the way they live.

Agreed. ‘Equality’ and ‘Identity’ are two words which often get confused. Men and women are equal, but not identical. Viva la Diferencia! See “EUCHARIST AND GENDER” by Mary Rousseau posted by NYer several days ago at my request. (I’m new here and can barely post replies correctly, much less articles). Prof. Rousseau deals very effectively with your point concerning ontological identity. I remember hearing one time a practicing Catholic adult woman (poorly catechisized as is the norm these past 30 or so years) when caught in a discussion on whether or not women should/could become priests, meekly state "I can't see it - it wouldn't look right". She felt embarrassed by this "weak" answer. But, keeping in mind that she held no political or sociological agendas concerning this topic, I felt it was a very natural and correct answer, laying a foundation for supernatural answers I might add. She wasn't consciously aware that her deeper ingrained knowledge of the subject pointed to ontological distinctions between men and women, though she could never word it that way. Give credit to God, the Divne Artisan, who chooses to create, redeem, and sanctify ontological reality, aka Creation, as per His dictums - and not the "polls" that you earlier mentioned.

17 posted on 07/14/2002 3:56:52 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: TotusTuus
"I can't see it - it wouldn't look right".

Or as Mammy said in Gone With the Wind, "It ain't fittin, it just ain't fittin." Same as the Holy Spirit as feminine, which is something the liberals tried to foist on us. So if the Holy Spirit is feminine and Mary conceived of the Holy Spirit then.....it ain't fittin, it just ain't fittin. There is something not right about it and you do't have to be a theologian to sense it. Plus I think of a woman priest who is pregnat saying Mass. Hmmm that seems like some really garbled symbolism.

18 posted on 07/14/2002 5:53:49 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: TotusTuus
Welcome to Free Republic.

Are you familiar with Gorecki's new setting of "Totus Tuus" in honor of Pope John Paul II? It is magnificent.

19 posted on 07/14/2002 6:14:22 PM PDT by Siobhan
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