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To: sitetest
Okay, well, one thing at a time.

Are you saying something like the more evolutionarily fit, the more successfully competitive is a society, the more objectively true or good are its values?

"True" and "Good" are not interchangeable words. I don't see how values can be "true." Values are indicative of priorities, but I don't see how they can be judged in terms of their veracity.

And of course you believe things. Currently you believe that Objectivism seems to be the best way of looking at things. I notice also that you believe that if you jump off a building, gravity will have its way with you.

You are confusing belief with knowledge. As I said, gravity is not a matter of "belief." It's testable, it's verifiable, it's independent of belief. If you are going to use words interchangeably that are in fact very different, we aren't going to get very far.

73 posted on 07/10/2002 9:02:57 AM PDT by Anamensis
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To: Anamensis
Dear Anamensis,

"'True' and 'Good' are not interchangeable words."

I didn't mean to suggest that they are. I'm just trying to find the words that you might use to describe your views, and suggested these two as possibly the right ones.

"You are confusing belief with knowledge. As I said, gravity is not a matter of 'belief.' It's testable, it's verifiable, it's independent of belief."

Does this mean that everyone knows the law of gravity who has observed the phenomenon that dropped items tend to fall to earth?

sitetest

74 posted on 07/10/2002 9:28:04 AM PDT by sitetest
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