[Bandolier]

Maybe you can enlighten me. What do the evolutionists say came first, the cell, or the DNA/RNA code to CREATE that first cell?

If the cell came first, don't you need DNA to blueprint that cell? If the DNA coding came first, who wrote it?

Thanks.

If nothing can exist without efficient cause, the universe must have had an efficient cause...God.

Who is the efficient cause of God?

If the universe can exist without efficient cause, God is a joke.

If nothing can exist without efficient cause, God cannot exist without efficient cause; who created him?

[berned]

If nothing can exist without efficient cause, the universe must have had an efficient cause...God. Who is the efficient cause of God? If the universe can exist without efficient cause, God is a joke. If nothing can exist without efficient cause, God cannot exist without efficient cause; who created him?

Your questions are predicated on your understanding of the natural universe. God exists OUTSIDE the space-time domain. The rules that cause our universe to work are rules He designed. He is above and beyond the rules He Himself designed, and they don't apply to him. "Efficient cause" is a precept that you and I may have to live by -- not God.

[RobRoy]

f nothing can exist without efficient cause, God cannot exist without efficient cause; who created him?

So now I can meditate on that while contemplating my navel at the same time.

But I'll have to spit out my gum. Two things at a time is about it. I don't want to choke to death...