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Evolution Is Biologically Impossible
www.irc.org ^ | Joseph Mastropaolo, Ph.D

Posted on 06/24/2002 2:56:50 PM PDT by Texaggie79

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To: Texaggie79
To test simply the alleged self-combining tendency of carbon, I placed one microliter of India (lampblack) ink in 27 ml. of distilled water. The ink streaked for the bottom of the test tube where it formed a dark haze which completely diffused to an even shade of gray in 14 hours. The carbon stayed diffused, not aggregated as when dropped on paper. At this simple level, there is no evidence that the "primeval soup" is anything but fanciful imagination.
The famous Mastropaolo experiment, refuting the notion that bottled India ink keyed the origin of life. Sounds like a refutation of Intelligent Design to me.

The idea he has heard of but misunderstood is that carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen (CHON) have chemical affinities and form compounds which are stable but not overly so. They keep combining and recombining without falling into deep energy wells. (That is, without forming compounds so stable that recombination stops.)

Lampblack in room-temperature water (the Mastropaolo Experiment) doesn't react chemically with anything. It just diffuses and stays diffused, as he notes. The problem with his demonstration is that we already have the Miller experiment of 1953, which showed that it's rather easy to get aminos from simple organic compounds in a reducing atmosphere. Against that, what does Mastropaolo's unimaginative 1-day experiment mean?

141 posted on 06/24/2002 5:18:54 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Texaggie79

Ironically, the most compelling evidence in the photo is the arm of the Missing Link.

142 posted on 06/24/2002 5:19:43 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: toddhisattva
If you have a preacher who's spouting this stupidity, find another church! He's a damned moron.

Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I agree to a point. Nowadays, why use an eye to try to "prove" intelligent design when a simple strand of DNA is significantly more complicated and unexplainable, though theories abound, and change, and evolve...

143 posted on 06/24/2002 5:20:08 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: tpaine
You can interpret the conclusions however you want. That won't change the FACT that a human footprint was found BELOW a dinosaur's........
144 posted on 06/24/2002 5:22:08 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Dog Gone
ROTFLMFAOTIME
145 posted on 06/24/2002 5:23:24 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: ladyrustic
I would like someone to explain to me how death evolved. Every living thing dies.

Single-celled creatures don't die, at least until something kills them.

Wouldn't evolutionary pressure select for an organism that could lengthen its life? Instead, every thing dies.

Death by aging is an evolutionary advantage. Creatures that live forever can't breed without limit, obviously, so as a species they don't have much opportunity to adapt to changing circumstances. The creatures that have rapid generations have greater adaptability, so they have a greater chance of making it through mass extinctions.

147 posted on 06/24/2002 5:26:41 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Redcloak; Texaggie79
Is he logged in?

Sure looks that way.....I swear Tex I had nothing to do with it....I came off the thread for a while to eat dinner....hit the reload post...and there he was!!!! You were right...it's really spooky.

148 posted on 06/24/2002 5:31:34 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: cinFLA
My Bible says "two of every sort" and every animal after "his kind". It is necessary to understand two things before people pick apart the Bible in order to prove that we all evolved from a supposed and imaginary warm pond.

1. The Bible is an account of miracles that defy the laws of physics. There is no way to disprove a miracle using scientific tools.

2. The Bible is primarily a spiritual book and it must be understood from a spiritual perspective. The use of the word "kind" and "sort" does not have to fit in with the ever changing definition of the word "species". They are two different things.

149 posted on 06/24/2002 5:31:47 PM PDT by Raymond Hendrix
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To: Texaggie79
NO! I have not found it remotely plausibly answered by the evolution ?community? [not sure how a collection of rabid and rebellious individualists constitute community but anyway] nor anyone else--the issue of:

A) The age of the universe is not remotely long enough for a fraction of the changes to have occurred.

B) The monkey at the typewriter might get to "four score and" but very, very soon thereafter, chaos on the keys will set in again and forever more.

Evolution is a silly proposition from the git go; on the face of it regardless of God or no God, the theory is unbecoming a child's logic, much less a PhD's.
150 posted on 06/24/2002 5:32:40 PM PDT by Quix
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
just out of curiosity, are you ignorant, stupid, or insane?

Now YOU knock this off. You won't be warned twice.

151 posted on 06/24/2002 5:33:52 PM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Focault's Pendulum
All you have to do is say his name.......... I'm tellin ya.
152 posted on 06/24/2002 5:33:57 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Quix
You sir are apparently an expert on child-like thinking.
153 posted on 06/24/2002 5:36:58 PM PDT by The Mike Device
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To: The Mike Device
Yeah, Father God seems to favor it . . . as opposed to the childishness of evolution.
154 posted on 06/24/2002 5:38:39 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Physicist
They would evolve in concert after a certain point. Perhaps they'd take turns being the bottleneck. What limits human eyesight now, the eye or the optic nerve? My guess is the eye, but who can tell what the situation was 1 million years ago?

You tell some good stories. Unfortunately, your "guess" and what you think "perhaps" happened "1 million" years ago is not really the same as the actual truth. It is just a story.

155 posted on 06/24/2002 5:39:46 PM PDT by Raymond Hendrix
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To: Physicist
They would evolve in concert after a certain point. Perhaps they'd take turns being the bottleneck. What limits human eyesight now, the eye or the optic nerve? My guess is the eye, but who can tell what the situation was 1 million years ago?

You tell some good stories. Unfortunately, your "guess" and what you think "perhaps" happened "1 million" years ago is not really the same as the actual truth. It is just a story.

156 posted on 06/24/2002 5:41:26 PM PDT by Raymond Hendrix
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To: Texaggie79
Lets not qibble.

Times awasting on this Golden Offer Tex! Send money now!
157 posted on 06/24/2002 5:41:31 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
I shoulda figured you for AmWay scum............
158 posted on 06/24/2002 5:43:42 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Raymond Hendrix
The use of the word "kind" and "sort" does not have to fit in with the ever changing definition of the word "species". They are two different things.

Give some examples to compare and contrast the distinctions. I'll help you get started: G3k and medved have claimed that (paraphrasing) "for purposes of discussing evolution" the equidae (horses, donkeys, 2 species of zebra, etc) "are one species". G3k has gone so far as to claim that llamas and (both species of) camels are also one species. Would you say they are the same 'kind'? What about mules?

159 posted on 06/24/2002 5:45:11 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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