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To: RnMomof7
"Catholic apologists who claim that eating flesh and drinking blood are either metaphors of reviling in John 6 or they are not metaphors at all, are guilty of the either/or fallacy."

Wow, 2,000 years of fallacy. What deluded people. The audacity of them, to take not only what Our Lord said at face value, but what His Apostles taught at face value. What next, an Apostolic Church? A Church whose teachings are based on the Words of Our Lord and the teachings of His Apostles? Who would have thunk it?

66 posted on 06/23/2002 11:24:09 AM PDT by narses
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To: narses
Can I ask you something seriously? What if tomorrow there was a revelation that the church had been in error and indeed it was a metaphor....would that kill your faith in Christ? Would you stop being a Christian?

One of the things I have often considered is how we can hold tradition above Christ. ( I am not only talking about RC's here it is true of almost all faiths)

Remember the story in the OT where Moses hold up the pole with the serpent on it in the desert ? Everyone that looked on it was saved.

Sometime later we read in the OT the it had to be removed from the temple because people were worshipping it. That prophetic sign of Christ had become an idol.

I think that is part of sinful human nature..the gift becomes to object of worship over the giver.

I noted that in a Charasimatic church..every one was focued on the "gifts".That is all they talk about.

You can find that in churchs that dwell on tradition..there are Protestant churchs that will not sing anything but Psalms...

I suspect for some RC's the Eucharist is in that group. It is a spiritual end in itself ..not the meaning and purpose of it..

You have seen as I have people go to communion and really believe they have just injested the body of Christ..and then cursings come out of that mouth minutes later..where is the changed heart?

Have you ever wondered how you would react to that? Would communion still be a holy moment, an encounter with Christ?

I am just asking out of curosity you do not have to answer .I know that it was a big change for me.I wonder how others would respond.

68 posted on 06/23/2002 12:06:09 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: narses
What deluded people.

I agree.

86 posted on 06/24/2002 11:40:41 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer
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