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To: xzins; Revelation 911; winstonchurchill
What the Calvinists do in order to show that they are not fatalists is spend a lot of time refuting the pagan notion of fatalism (i.e. 'luck', 'chance', 'fate')

The actual definition of Fatalism, stated in your post, as it relates to the Calvinistic notion of predestination never comes into play.

As John Calvin said Ignorance is wisdom... (Calvin, Institutes, 3:21.2, cited in Palmer, Five Points, p.111)

How is that for a motto! I told you these guys speak Orwellian

27 posted on 06/22/2002 1:41:14 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration; Revelation 911; winstonchurchill; RnMomof7; rdb3; OrthodoxPresbyterian; ...
Let it, therefore, be our first principle that to desire any other knowledge of predestination than that which is expounded by the word of God, is no less infatuated than to walk where there is no path, or to seek light in darkness. Let us not be ashamed to be ignorant in a matter in which ignorance is learning. Rather let us willingly abstain from the search after knowledge, to which it is both foolish as well as perilous, and even fatal to aspire. If an unrestrained imagination urges us, our proper course is to oppose it with these words, "It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory," (Prov. 25: 27.) There is good reason to dread a presumption which can only plunge us headlong into ruin.

Calvin, Institutes, 3:21.2

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This is the full quote in context. An interesting quote and in my opinion advice that is well worth heeding!

33 posted on 06/22/2002 2:37:28 PM PDT by drstevej
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