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Navy Officer From Iowa Barred From Entering Mormon Temple
Des Moines Register ^ | 6/19/02 | Vess Mitev

Posted on 06/19/2002 1:06:26 PM PDT by marshmallow

Edited on 05/25/2004 2:46:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Elsie
"In your haste to point out a supposed error on MY part, "

You implied that ALL sins could be forgiven and I showed you the Bible itself says otherwise.

"you referenced a Scripture, that pointed to the first of the the two, not the second, "

Because my point was to show the existance of unforgivable sin is Biblical, contrary to your assertion. One counter example is enough to do that.

481 posted on 06/26/2002 7:46:49 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Elsie
"Of HUMANS???"

Those who murdered were required by the Lord to be put to death. He clearly commanded "the murderer shall surely be put to death" several times in Numbers. I think you need to read that letter (again?) with the goal of understanding what is said.
482 posted on 06/26/2002 7:52:16 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Elsie
"Do you have a LINK to these folks?"

I don't know any of them that maintain a site on the web. They tend to write research papers and books. I'll give you a link to a paper by a non-LDS (and archived on a non-LDS site) that I think is a good example however. I don't agree with their position, but I do consider them honest, informed and accurate as far as Mormonism is concerned.

http://www.gospelcom.net/apolo geticsindex/cpoint10-2.html

Enjoy.
483 posted on 06/26/2002 8:04:10 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Elsie
Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is willfully denying Christ after having received a perfect knowledge (not just faith) of him and his divinity from the Holy Ghost.
484 posted on 06/26/2002 8:15:14 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
I ment to include this quote:

"What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it; and from that time he begins to be an enemy. This is the case with many apostates of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." - Joseph Smith

485 posted on 06/26/2002 8:27:33 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Elsie
" Ooops! ;^) I re-read your reply to me and saw that it was the 'all' to which you were refering me."

That's OK, I replied to your reply before I read your reply to your reply.
486 posted on 06/26/2002 8:32:46 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
Wow, this thread is still going? ;^)
487 posted on 06/26/2002 10:46:45 AM PDT by Some hope remaining.
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To: Elsie
I want to apologized to you for being so unkind. you ask a question and I like to give you the link and also where you can find other sites. ~ This link has to be direct so when you link to the LDS go to the "Search the standard works" paste the- BLASPHEMY AGAINST HOLY GHOST - and click for site

2-LDS News

488 posted on 06/26/2002 12:24:14 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
Accepted.
We lose SO much in this communication medium (just as you've illustrated above) and our humaness is reduce to a smidgen at times. I'm thoroughly convinced each of us wants make sure the other (as well as ourselves) is on the right path and in our passion we can get caught up.

Thanks for the links.

489 posted on 06/27/2002 10:01:09 AM PDT by Elsie
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