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Catholics in China: Back to the Underground
Cardinal Kung Foundation via the New York Times [reprint] ^ | Patrick E. Tyler

Posted on 06/15/2002 7:22:17 PM PDT by JMJ333

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To: Siobhan
And the Rosary, the Angelus, the Litanies -- these are the gifts given to us by our sacred tradition.

How true. Between the morning offering, the angelus and the rosary, Catholics can pray throughout the day without making any extraordinary efforts.

21 posted on 10/28/2002 8:05:16 PM PST by Maximilian
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The theory being presented was that Guan Yin was transformed into the goddess of mercy and depicted with a child because of the encounter with the Nestorian Christians who evangelized China with their devotion to Mary and the Child Jesus.

How fascinating. I've often wondered about the reason for the changing gender of the Kuan Yin figure. I've always seen the feminine Kuan Yin as a nearly identical archetype of Mary, but you point out a plausible historical reason, rather than mere coincidence.

22 posted on 10/28/2002 8:07:37 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Siobhan
Thanks! I can't believe you dug up this thread! I will indeed pray for the chinese. Don't forget to petition Cardinal Kung! He is a great intercessor!

-jmj

ps: and prayers for you an baby briege as well.

23 posted on 10/28/2002 9:02:55 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Siobhan
My friend leaves Saturday with her family for China, her ancestral homeland. She will visit her parents family burial sites out of respect for her father and the Chinese tradition. She is going with her husband and daughter. She was born in China and fled with her parents at the age of one and a half. Her family is Buddhist, she was converted by Opus Dei. She will not be able to attend mass at any but a Government controlled church, and this causes her pain. V's wife.
25 posted on 10/29/2002 5:17:16 AM PST by ventana
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What gets me is how the Chinese Patriotic Assn.'s "priests" are welcomed at Roman Catholic functions around the world, and some take up residency in American parishes. I will definitely do a novena. I think of the poor Chinese esp. when I'm doing the 5th sorrowful mystery. Many are dying/tortured for their faith as we speak. God have mercy on us all.

I read somewhere recently it's getting worse. The underground Church is unable to communicate much to its benefactors and supporters outside of China these days.

26 posted on 10/29/2002 5:36:59 PM PST by attagirl
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Catholic Bishop Arrested as China Tightens Noose on the Church

Another bishop in China arrested?

There was also an article on the news thread last night about something happening in Hong Kong. But I couldn't find it right now. Will keep looking.

27 posted on 10/29/2002 6:13:51 PM PST by Salvation
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HK's 'Vatican agent' irks Beijing
28 posted on 10/29/2002 6:26:40 PM PST by Salvation
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To: attagirl; JMJ333; Askel5; Domestic Church; Salvation
It is getting much worse. I am of the opinion that the Chinese Communists (together with the true believers in Russia) are actually pulling the strings in a scenario meant to lead to our downfall as a superpower and a nation. Nothing is as it appears to be -- and France is merely reading and performing their part of the script.

In the meantime, priests, bishops, nuns and men women and children are tortured and killed by the ChiComs -- and hardly a word is spoken. We must pray to end the silence as well as end the atrrocities committed against the faithful Church. JMJ333 is so right that we need to petition Cardinal Kung for his intercession. Salvation thank you for the links on this thread. God bless you all, dear friends.

All of us are in fine fiddle, and Briege looks more and more like my daughter Maeve as a little one -- which is really astounding to us all. My uncle said Maeve was as beautiful as the Queen of the Faerie Folk. And Briege has that same sort of not-of-this-world beauty. Of course, I am in no way prejudiced, and this is a purely objective evaluation on my part.

;^)

29 posted on 10/29/2002 8:34:56 PM PST by Siobhan
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Given your take (which I share) on the Chicoms and the "former Soviets", I'm prepared to respect entirely your objectivity where Briege is concerned!

So pleased to hear all is well.

30 posted on 10/29/2002 8:39:30 PM PST by Askel5
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Never Again Speech
Boycott Made in China
The Laogai Research Foundation

31 posted on 02/18/2003 12:12:44 PM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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BTTT
32 posted on 02/18/2003 2:30:03 PM PST by Siobhan († Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet †)
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