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EWTN TV USCCB Coverage Of The Summer Session
EWTN Television ^ | June,2002 | staff

Posted on 06/09/2002 5:16:31 PM PDT by Lady In Blue

USCCB COVERAGE OF THE SUMMER SESSION


EWTNews Director, Raymond Arroyo and his guest will provide extensive coverage of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Summer Plenary Session. Tune in for daily live coverage of the events.

PREVIEW SHOW:

Wed. June 12, 8:00 PM Live

Wed. June 12, 10:00 PM (encore)

Thursday June 13, 2:00 AM (encore)

Thursday June 13, 9:00 AM (encore)


MORNING SESSION (4 HRS) LIVE:

Thursday June 13, 2002 10:00 AM

Thursday June 13, 2002 9:00 PM (encore)

AFTERNOON SESSION (4 HRS) LIVE:

Thursday June 13, 2002 3:00 PM

Friday June 14, 2002 2:00 AM (encore)

MORNING SESSION (4 HRS) LIVE:

Friday June 14, 2002 10:00 AM

Friday June 14, 2002 8:00 PM (encore)

AFTERNOON SESSION (4 HRS)
LIVE:

Friday June 14, 2002 3:00 PM

Saturday June 15, 2002 1:00 AM (encore)

SESSION HIGHLIGHTS (60:00):

Saturday June 15, 2002 4:00 PM

Saturday June 15, 2002 10:00 PM (encore)

SESSION HIGHLIGHTS (60:00):

Sunday June 16, 2002 5:00 PM

Monday June 17, 2002 10:00 AM (encore)

Monday June 17, 2002 11:00 PM (encore)


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; gavelgavelcoverage
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To: maryz
Uh, oh. Role of women. Marginalization of women devastating.
41 posted on 06/13/2002 8:15:06 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
Marginalization of women? Being neither male or ordained?

Losing credibility on "sex and gender"?

42 posted on 06/13/2002 8:15:08 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: maryz
Moral crisis, pastoral crisis, also legal and financial. Fr. E. Molloy report "Challenges arising from the Crisis" (?).

Church must understand itself as a national body.

"Present structures of USCCB inadequate," Oh.

Are you trusted by the Vatican? Make policies for here without worrying about Rome.

43 posted on 06/13/2002 8:19:29 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Siobhan
Siobhan's mood re: the USCCB bishops and the cardinals= BANSHEE RISING - YELLOW ALERT

Look out everyone -- she's about to go critical mass! LOL! I need a laugh right now because my heart is broken and in a million tears!

44 posted on 06/13/2002 8:21:51 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: maryz
Many catholics have been ignoring you since 1968. Bishops failed to convince.

Active lay participation, including "shared decision-making" has been left to inclination of the bishop.

45 posted on 06/13/2002 8:23:07 AM PDT by maryz
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To: ThomasMore; Aquinasfan; Polycarp
Time to take it to the streets, fellas.
46 posted on 06/13/2002 8:24:28 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: maryz
More on lay participation. Most lay or priest councils have atrophied.
47 posted on 06/13/2002 8:24:30 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Askel5; maryz, Siobhan
Thanks for the commentary. Keep it coming. No outside source here! I've got agita!
48 posted on 06/13/2002 8:26:34 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Askel5
  1. Crisis primarily moral ... now pastoral and constitutional (re: finances, etc.) Vulnerable in legal matters and to civil authorities as a result. "Challenges and Opportunities Arising from the Current Crisis". (From the President of Notre Dame? Swell.)

  2. Institutionally a unique presence, not a public trust but public face and public moral trust. Establish itself as national body?!? What is relationship between Vatican/USCCB, Canon/Civil law? "A counterproductive level of oversight" ... are you instructed by the Vatican? Urge to formulate policies that make most sense for "this environment" without worrying about Vatican.

    "Let Rome be Rome ... it will be anyway. ["thank you ... applause a good thing"]

    Here come the Compliance Programs.

  3. Laity Leadership. 34 years of open disobedience ... artificial contraception, sex outside of marriage, abortions. Breakdown opened way to Crisis.

    [So let's let the Laity speak to the Laity morals-wise so Bishops can handle their own business? Is that what he's saying?]

    "Shared decision-making, where appropriate."

    Collegiality ... what a buzzword.

    "The future of the Church in this country depends upon your sharing authority with the Laity."

    Now we're getting to the nut of this guy's argument.

Then his first trick, taking a page from the hierarchy's hubris he's protesting?

"Let me speak for the laity to the victims of the sexual abuse."

49 posted on 06/13/2002 8:27:16 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
constipated accountants

You know where they got that from! ;^)

50 posted on 06/13/2002 8:27:33 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: ThomasMore
I need a sedative.
51 posted on 06/13/2002 8:27:37 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: maryz; Askel5
His speech is much better than I expected. I was preparing myself for a total disaster, but he has said many valuable things and he has restrained himself from some of his earlier rhetoric. "[The bishops] must give a clear account for the faith that is in them." I heartily agree.
52 posted on 06/13/2002 8:27:39 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: maryz
Laity claimed bishops seemed more worried about priests than victims.

Sympathy for the good priests.

Crisis part of whole range of problems. Isolation, aloofness of the bishops. Share authority [sic] with the laity.

Can't stop with addressing just sex abuse -- must have discipline and oversight in priesthood; fight clericalism.

53 posted on 06/13/2002 8:28:06 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Askel5
"A new regime [of collegiality?] with the laity."

"The promise of Vat II can yet be realized" [if laity involved at every level of the Church's mission].

54 posted on 06/13/2002 8:29:54 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: eastsider
Time to take it to the streets, fellas.

I'm with you. Time and Place?

55 posted on 06/13/2002 8:29:57 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Askel5
Regime of lay collaboration, that's it. (Lip service to fidelity.)
56 posted on 06/13/2002 8:30:41 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: maryz
Can't stop with addressing just sex abuse -- must have discipline and oversight in priesthood; fight clericalism.
Words, words, words. These guys are frustrated window dressers. (JMO)
57 posted on 06/13/2002 8:30:50 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: ThomasMore; eastsider; Askel5; maryz
Mercifully, that speech was not as bad as it could have been. It had some good points and moments. But his conclusion - lay collaboration -is not the answer. He missed it. He was still banging his "spirit of Vatican II" drum, although a bit muted and at times sotto voce or almost delivered in romanitas.
58 posted on 06/13/2002 8:33:05 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: eastsider
I need a sedative.

Yeah, like the RipVanWinkle Pill. Wake me up in 40 years! God help us!

59 posted on 06/13/2002 8:33:59 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Askel5
Our next speaker is going to illustrate for all why women should be seen and not heard. (What kind of voice is this for a grown woman?)

Margaret O'Brien Steinfels on the Gates of Hell.

"Hell is not the despair-inducing gateway of Dante's inferno" or Milton's imagination ... can be very tame.

Reading from Henri de Lubac's "Splendor of the Church"

(We are all human ... "actually it said we are all men but I"ve adapted this slightly".) [Laughter]

60 posted on 06/13/2002 8:34:52 AM PDT by Askel5
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