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Humanae Vitae: Heroic, Deficient - Or Both?
Latin Mass Magazine ^ | John Galvin

Posted on 06/09/2002 5:12:50 PM PDT by JMJ333

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To: Catholicguy
Actual Catholics and Yankee fans. It does not get better than this.

Have you heard that the loyal orderr of Fenway is spending tyhe summer salvaging the Bambino's piano from a pond near a former summer cottage of his at Sudbury. They hope to appease the gods of baseball and the Bambino in particular by salvaging his piano. LMAO.

While we are at it, do you think it would be proper for the Vatican to make an ecumenical gesture in light of the exemplary life of the Iron Horse, to canonize Lou Gehrig as a saint in spite of his presumably Lutheran faith? I have to believe that the pope, like God, is a Yankee fan.

61 posted on 06/12/2002 9:32:29 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: Catholicguy
Actual Catholics and Yankee fans. It does not get better than this.

Have you heard that the loyal orderr of Fenway is spending tyhe summer salvaging the Bambino's piano from a pond near a former summer cottage of his at Sudbury. They hope to appease the gods of baseball and the Bambino in particular by salvaging his piano. LMAO.

While we are at it, do you think it would be proper for the Vatican to make an ecumenical gesture in light of the exemplary life of the Iron Horse, to canonize Lou Gehrig as a saint in spite of his presumably Lutheran faith? I have to believe that the pope, like God, is a Yankee fan.

62 posted on 06/12/2002 9:33:19 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: Catholicguy
Actual Catholics and Yankee fans. It does not get better than this.

Have you heard that the loyal orderr of Fenway is spending the summer salvaging the Bambino's piano from a pond near a former summer cottage of his at Sudbury. They hope to appease the gods of baseball and the Bambino in particular by salvaging his piano. LMAO.

While we are at it, do you think it would be proper for the Vatican to make an ecumenical gesture in light of the exemplary life of the Iron Horse, to canonize Lou Gehrig as a saint in spite of his presumably Lutheran faith? I have to believe that the pope, like God, is a Yankee fan.

63 posted on 06/12/2002 9:36:04 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
Gregorian Chant and Palestrina

O.k, top this. I am an Irish-Algonquin Catholic and a lifelong Yankeee fan who drives around in his van, with the Oakland Raiders License plate, listening to the "Kyrie" of Missae Papae Marcellus (Sp? my C.D. is in the van) by Palestrina at ear-piercing levels.

Your wife might agree with you on music, my wife merely thinks me insane

64 posted on 06/12/2002 10:19:52 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
OK. I am not enough of a football fan to argue about the Raiders whose image is definitely to cherish. Not just that Kyrie but the entire Mass of Pope Marcellus were sung live (without ear-splitting) with some regularity by the Schola Cantorum of Sacred Heart Church in New Haven, my former parish, and I believe also here in Rockford at St. Mary's Shrine. My wife would know. Remember that she only agrees with my tastes in Church music.
65 posted on 06/12/2002 10:07:42 PM PDT by BlackElk
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Dear Catholicguy,

"In other words, there is no Magisterial source to which we can repair to cite authority granting us liberty to attack either Encyclicals or Documents of an Ecumenical Council."

I was browsing the Catechism on another topic, and ran across this:

907 "In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they posess, [lay people] (parenthesis in the original) have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church, and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful, with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with the consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons."

I am a layperson. I have a modest level of knowledge, little theological competence, but significant competence in terms of general intelligence, and modest preeminence. In accord with that, I have offered my opinion about an encyclical, namely, that I would have found it helpful in understanding the teaching if the encyclical had taken me, a layperson with modest theological background, and directed me more explicitly to the 2000 year old tradition of the teaching. I have expressed this to my sacred pastors previously, and have made it known to my fellow Christian faithful. At no time have I questioned the teaching, thus according due regard to the integrity of faith and morals. At no time have I suggested that this teaching is not binding in conscience on all Catholics. My language has been reverent toward our sacred pastors, especially Pope Paul VI, whose memory I revere. My comments were made with thought to the common good, and at all times respected the dignity of persons.

Others more knowledgeable, more competent, and more preeminent than me are entitled to the same.

Certainly it pertains to the good of the Church whether or not the truth is taught effectively or well. It seems that my previous caveats about not falling into schism or heresy by questioning the infallible teaching of the Church, about not acting without charity, etc. echo what is found here, in the Catechism.

In fraternal charity,

sitetest

66 posted on 06/15/2002 5:23:31 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: BlackElk
Oh what a horrid story. I am almost in tears.
68 posted on 07/01/2002 7:23:35 AM PDT by narses
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To: BlackElk
There is a once Catholic Church across the street from Boston Common which used to have three Masses per hour and confessions round the clock.

If it's across from the Common, it's the Paulist Center. St. Anthony's is on Arch Street between the shopping district and the financial district. St. Anthony's is OK.

69 posted on 07/01/2002 7:44:39 AM PDT by maryz
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To: JMJ333
As Fr. John Hardon, S.J., has said, "Professed Catholics who practice contraception either give up the practice of contraception or they give up their Catholic faith."

Given the current uproar in the church, couldn't someone with a less ... incendiary name have been found to make this statement?

70 posted on 07/01/2002 10:01:30 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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Not all of us are so...one tracked. =)
71 posted on 07/01/2002 12:11:09 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Couldn't help it. It just leapt out at me.
72 posted on 07/01/2002 12:16:42 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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