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To: 4Him
Good passage from Rom 11. This caution also appears in Rom 11, for those who believe that God is done with the nation of Israel, and that somehow the promises made to Abraham, Jacob, and David can all be transferred to the church:

Rom 11:17-18: "But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you."

As you already quoted from 11:25, "a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in."

52 posted on 06/05/2002 7:54:52 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Rocky
As you already quoted from 11:25, "a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in."

...and this fulness occurred through Christ who took away our sins! (see verse 27)

128 posted on 06/06/2002 1:23:58 PM PDT by webwide
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To: Rocky
GREAT REFS.

Thanks for joining the fray. It can get a bit isolated at times.

147 posted on 06/06/2002 8:33:50 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Rocky
OOOPS, I was going to comment on some other phrases in those verses. . .

I also forgot to note that it TAXES my CPU exceedingly to try and wrap my mind around the notion that JESUS, THE PENULTIMATE PARAGON JEW somehow fulfilled anything of the era of the gentiles.

Let's put the whole 3 verses up: Rom:11:25 "I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: 'The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.'"

"He will turn Godlessness away from Jacob."

Ahhhhh, So, the genetic Jews have not been sinning since AD 100???? Oh, I forgot, the genetic Jews have been wiped out of galactic existence from God's purview per YOUR construction on reality so--OH, I GET IT--THE GENTILES have been sinless since AD 100!!!!?????????

How wonderful! I guess we need to let a few thousand murderers and rapists and arrogant and . . . who once earnestly accepted Christ and then became overcome again by their evil--err--less admirable--choices--we need to let them go and consider them as sinless.

I wonder why "revisionist" keeps coming to mind.

205 posted on 06/08/2002 6:09:40 AM PDT by Quix
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