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To: Iowegian
Which part of now do you not understand?

How many times did He have to change His mind? The prophets foretold a suffering savior. The people tried to make Jesus King and He wouldn't have it. Somewhere in there He must have decided to have an earthly kingdom because according to your reading He changes His mind when He was about to be crucified.

Besides the fact that He explicitly said His kingdom was not in a place that could be pointed to, but within us.

How many scriptures have to mean something other than what they say for you to keep your view?

239 posted on 06/09/2002 12:06:41 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
I appreciate your responses as off the wall as they seem to me.

I'm going to be rather tied up with school work etc. the next few days. Perhaps some more worthy than I will respond.

Blessings,

241 posted on 06/09/2002 12:34:43 PM PDT by Quix
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To: hopespringseternal
How many times did He have to change His mind?

None, he never changed his mind, all went according to God's plan.

The prophets foretold a suffering savior.

Yes, I agree, but nothing in Premillenial theology is violated with this. So what's your point?

The people tried to make Jesus King and He wouldn't have it.

No, "He came to his own and his own did not receive him". They did not truly want Jesus as their king, but they did want freedom from Roman oppression, but only on their terms. They did want the Roman empire to be violently overthrown.

Somewhere in there He must have decided to have an earthly kingdom because according to your reading He changes His mind when He was about to be crucified.

The plan of God was always for there to be a "church age" before the millenial kindom of the Messiah. Why were the disciples (in Acts) still asking Jesus when the kingdom would begin, even after the crucifixion, if there would not be a physical earthly kingdom in the future? Jesus did not tell them it was not coming, but he did say it's timing was none of their business.

Besides the fact that He explicitly said His kingdom was not in a place that could be pointed to, but within us.

Yes, because for those he was talking to and us, that is how we become part of the kingdom, since it a future event.

How many scriptures have to mean something other than what they say for you to keep your view?

None. Now why did Jesus put the now in his statement (from my previous post) if there would not be a later physical millenial kingdom. And why did you leave that part of the verse out when you quoted it? You are avoiding my point. You don't want to talk about the Scriptures that show Preterism to be a sham.

243 posted on 06/09/2002 1:32:15 PM PDT by Iowegian
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