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To: Quix
Thankfully, God has never been restrained in the least by those who failed to believe He said what He meant and meant what He said.

Ah, so you believe that He really meant it when He said that He would return soon, right? Or perhaps you believe that He was hoping that the disciples would understand that He really meant sometime in a couple of thousand years.....???

125 posted on 06/06/2002 1:02:00 PM PDT by webwide
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To: webwide
Oh, I've puzzled plenty over 2,000 years "soon."

But the puzzles and mysteries become great in number and exceedingly absurd if one tries to wrap one's mind around your position and a long list of Scriptures.

When in the last 2,000 years has the Temple been rebuilt?

When has The AntiChrist appeared and set his image up in the rebuilt Temple?

When and where has Christ bodily appeared and set up His 1,000 years of perfect peace?

When has 1/3 of the seas; 1/3 of the rivers; 1/3 of the human population of the world become as blood or died?

When has the Mark of The Beast been implemented world wide by a world wide government in ancient times?

When, in ancient times, has knowledge increased and been dispersed so extensively?

When, in ancient times, have so many run so rapidly to and fro upon the earth--particularly in vehicles with lights?

When have there been so many "signs in the heavens--manmade and otherwise--in ancient times?

When has man, in ancient times, set his nest among the stars, so to speak, in any literal sense?

When, other than the potential threat at Babel, has man, in ancient times, come so close to discovering "the secret of life?"

When, in ancient times, has God made Jerusalem such a burden for the whole world?

When, in ancient times, has the Russian peoples and any "King of the East" colluded against Israel?

As to armies of horses. . . as I recall, the Scriptures about those have to do with Russia. Regardless, many have boggled skeptically at Biblical predictions before. Didn't slow God down one microsecond. He STILL did what he said He would. And He still will. . . regardless of whether it matches your theology or mine.

146 posted on 06/06/2002 8:31:28 PM PDT by Quix
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To: webwide
Ah, so you believe that He really meant it when He said that He would return soon, right? Or perhaps you believe that He was hoping that the disciples would understand that He really meant sometime in a couple of thousand years.....???

Apparently you don't read Acts 1-7 very carefully. The apostles and disciples did believe He would return soon and demonstrated their belief by selling all they had and sharing with others of the "little flock" of Jewish believers. This was a "foretaste" of the kingdom they were preparing to enter. But following the rejection of God the Holy Spirit by the stoning of Stephen, God placed His program with Israel on temporary hold, per Romans chapters 9 - 11. Instead of beginning the pouring out of God's wrath, which was the next event on the prophetic calendar, God instituted a new program of Gentile grace. This resulted in delaying the kingdom program some 2000 years now.

To believe the preterist view is to use extra-biblical information rather than the Word of God. The Word is clear as to why God is now dealing with Jew and Gentile on equal footing rather than dealing with the Jew only. Unfortunately, people read the Scriptures, or more likely, what someone has written about the Scriptures, with biases that cloud and distort the true meaning. If 70 AD concluded the Jewish program and God said the church, the Body of Christ is now Israel, why does John not mention this in the book of the Revelation? There is nothing in Scripture about the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, therefore any meaning attached to that event is based on the will of man, not of God, and is from extra-biblical sources, such as Josephus. You know what it says about adding to the Word of God!

186 posted on 06/07/2002 12:52:17 PM PDT by gracebeliever
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