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To: RnMomof7
listen to it Doug...Anyman that is not IN Christ is a walking dead man...You are confusing physical death a result of the fall with the consequence of the fall...a complete spiritual seperation from God. Man died spiritually the moment he sinned...the physical death simply is a visible manifestation..Think on this for one moment..

I agree, there is a complete spiritual seperation from God. But we are not spiritually dead, we have a human spirit that returns to God upon physical death.

375 posted on 05/08/2002 12:55:55 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
But we are not spiritually dead

John 12 37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom
hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

The people described in this passage did not believe because they could not. Scripture clearly teaches that there are some things a lost person cannot do because he is Spiritually dead

Cannot see - until he first be born again. (John 3:3)(Because he is dead)
Cannot understand - until he first be given a new nature. (1 Corinthians 2:14)(The old one has been killed in the fall)

Man was not a little hurt in the fall Doug..he died spiritually..

379 posted on 05/08/2002 1:07:49 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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