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To: RnMomof7
No. But there's a difference between being called and being chosen. Many are called, but few are chosen. Those chosen are the ones who heed the calling.
Sorry Doug that makes no sense..God says I chose you BECAUSE you choose me...Just who is God in all of this...sounds alot like "ye shall be as gods " to me

I'm sorry, but that seems crystal clear to me. God calls, we obey. We obey God, we obtain God's blessings. The bible is full of examples of people obeying and disobeying God. This denotes an element of will. Adam and Eve themselves CHOSE not to obey God. They exercised their will and chose wrongly. The bible is so clear on this that there shouldn't even be a debate:

John 15:14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.

Not "You are my friend because I make you do whatever I command you."

Act 7:51 O stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so you do.

People were resisting the Holy Spirit! How could that be without self will?

2Ti 3:8 But as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so these also resist the truth, men of corrupt mind, reprobate concerning the faith.

More people using their will to resist God.

The bible talks like God is calling people and people are resisting. They are not chosen because they resist God. Logically, that MUST mean that God isn't forcing them to choose him. Logically, that must mean that those elected DO choose to follow God.

211 posted on 05/07/2002 10:29:36 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
More people using their will to resist God.

So your will is stronger than God's grace and stronger than God's desire to save you? Are you sure you are really not god ?:>)))

Did God know that Adam and Eve were going to sin before He made them?

218 posted on 05/07/2002 12:34:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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