[RnMomof7]

Hyper-Calvinism Objects: The Scriptures say that men are chosen and damned "before the foundation of the world…" (Ephesians 1:4). But this text is taken out of the Biblical context of other passages such as 1 Peter 1:18-20 that says Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. How could Jesus be the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world by God’s good pleasure alone? His cross would be an act to save men with no sin if sin was not taken into account. Furthermore, His death would have been in vain since it would not have been for the sin of anyone, and God would have killed His only Son, before the foundation of the world, for no reason but His good pleasure.

Well if believing that God foreknew the fall before it happened and that he foreordained a plan for salvation before the fall is "hypercalvinist " then I am a hypercalvinist..I do not believe God is a helpless creator that acts on impulse and without a plan..neithor do I believe that God sat on His hands hoping that what He prophesied through the prophets would come true..

[the_doc]

Nah, you're not a hyper-Calvinist. We would have shot you before now if you were.

[DittoJed2]

This isn't hypercalvinism. It is lapsarianism.