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Perhaps you just simply don't think that God is holy enough to have already condemned the entire race a long time ago and out of the pleasure of His will and mercy has elected to save some for His glory and leave the rest to be burned for His glory.

You're right, I don't. In fact, I think that a concise and accurate statement of the Calvinist construct and the cruelist, most brutal, foolish, unbiblical and downright stupid thing I can imagine.

My God -- the God of the Bible -- derives no pleasure from the suffering of any. There is no "pleasure of will" in seeing to it that multitudes of His creations are "burned for his glory." We know this because Jesus perfectly reflected the nature of God to us and He offered special protection to those too young to rebel against their God.

But one must go further and ask what trauma brings forth a mind which would posit such a god. If you really believe that the God of the Bible "burns [people] for his glory" you truly have, as the phrase goes, "issues" with which you should deal.

Moreover, unless you are truly a sociopath, I doubt you really believe such nonsense yourself. Imagine yourself on some 'holy' mission to a pediactrics ward to round up new brands to "burn for his glory." I doubt even you could do it.

This is a perfect example of a premise of the construct that only makes 'sense' in the abstract -- the very, very abstract. Get a grip, man. Then get out your Bible and read of the Suffering Servant who died to make Himself "... the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for our sins but also for the whole world." Thank God Almighty.

Winston, you simply do not know that God of the Bible if you think that He is not holy enough to have already condemned everyone and is also pleased to never offer salvation to some. To claim that I am a sociopath is simply idotic on your part. However, I have come to expect it from you non-Calvinist:

Moreover, unless you are truly a sociopath, I doubt you really believe such nonsense yourself. ~ winstonchurchill

Gosh, winston, you simply don't know the Lord they way you really need to. He is far more holy than you can possibly believe. He is not the God of "Plan B" and He is not the God who bends over backwards to send opportunity after opportunity to every single person on the planet. You really do have a hyped up sense of self to believe otherwise.

And it is precisely this attitude that has given birth to your lack of ability to name the gospel (5 words) or express it (3 words) or even preach it.

Are you willing to go on record and say that He has actually covered the sins of the whole world? You never ever gave a good explaination of 1 John 2:2 anyway.