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A Brief Critique of Hyper-Calvinism
A Puritan's Mind ^ | C. Matthew McMahon

Posted on 05/02/2002 10:27:43 PM PDT by P-Marlowe

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To: RnMomof7
he decided to call the spamming doc to the rescue

You read the words of the_doc, and yet you insult me and refuse to condemn his words and refuse to accept responsibility for defending his words?

181 posted on 05/04/2002 11:15:36 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Corin Stormhands; Jerry_M;OrthodoxPresbyterian.CCWoody;the_doc;Matchett-PI;dittoJed2...
I see nothing silly in God's call to obedience. I'm sorry that you obviously do.

ohhhhhh no I see NOTHING silly in the call to obedience ..what I see as silly is using that as a defense of the question...WE preach in obedience to the gospel,we know that the salvation of the lost depends on the preaching of that gospel we preach because without the gospel men are lost..If xzins is correct then you preach so the safe can be damned

182 posted on 05/04/2002 11:16:15 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp;Admin Moderator
Brian I believe there is a rule about bringing a dispute from one thread to another.....by spaming this thread you have broken that rule I believe. Please let us in peace to continue the discussion here!
183 posted on 05/04/2002 11:18:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Personally, I think the_doc should be permanently banned.

I have solved the "doc" problem in my own life by ignoring his posts and requesting that he not post anything to me. So far it has worked well for me. Perhaps if everyone on FR who has been personally insulted by doc just ignored him, then eventually he'd have nobody to listen to his vain rantings.

Unfortunately doc seems to think he represents God in all things religious. Well he doesn't represent me. It is said that as a Christian you must be careful in how you speak and how you live because to some people YOU are the only Bible they will ever read. Some people drive more people away from the Lord than they draw to him.

It's a pity that those people too often think they are the guardians of Christian truth.

184 posted on 05/04/2002 11:25:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Goto 150. If you think doc jumped, check or corin's post.
186 posted on 05/04/2002 11:27:53 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
They brought the disagreement to this thread in violation of FR rules to discredit and disrupt..but I expect there will be no action..as that is the way it is here..

Best to ignore the disrupters and move on Wrigley

188 posted on 05/04/2002 11:32:25 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Yes Ma'am.
189 posted on 05/04/2002 11:33:07 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: RnMomof7;P-Marlowe
Dear R7, Just because other believers don't agree with you that is not an- (For if, when we were enemies)

PM is not your enemy, nor I, we are all going to have differences, yet it is the Lord reads our hearts and minds.

Now you may feel all comfortable to think you are one of the elect and saved. but your believe is your opinion and dose not make it so. I think your wrong, but that is my opinion, and I also know this is not the last stop but this stop is an important step. I believe in the Spirit World you still have another chance to reconcile though, some area's might be harder to over come like bad habit etc.(Didn't mean to get side track.)

Outside of your Calvin clan I don't think you have the right to judge others of their relationship with the Lord. Now you might think it is not what the Lord said in how it is done and that is why you are Calvinist. But you have no authority or right to police others like what doc did in post This is so self-righteous so puffed-up and its what Calvin’s do.

What I am trying to say it is not proper to do this, sharing and debating, but to have a thought come into your mind to force some one to believe, I don’t think so. Until you live that doctrine correctly and it’s not an opinion how can you comment on it. For an opinion is one thing, but to be emphatic is another. I really mean this in a gentle way

190 posted on 05/04/2002 11:37:27 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
Rest you did not understand the post. I was not telling PM he was my enemy..that is a salvation message..that while we were yet enemies (to God) he saved us...That is what Marlowe and I were talking about i believe he understood that
191 posted on 05/04/2002 11:39:40 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson; Dr. Brian Kopp
Thanks for your intervention, RnMom! You do know something about publishing an e-mail to get me in trouble, don't you? [LOL]

In all seriousness, I admire you for stepping forward, and I have only a deep admiration and affection for you. The truth is, I have been a lightning rod for controversy--no doubt about that, because I have been willing to take unpopular stands with all firmness.

On the other hand, I have always done my best to maintain a proper decorum on the discussion threads.

I will admit that this has not always been easy considering the kind of opinionated, stubborn, even dishonest, even publicly crude folks like we do have on FR. I will not name names; I have never been even so much as tempted to use the abuse button. For the record, however, I can think of several people who could have been banned for the kinds of things which they have repeatedly dared to fling at me in public in utterly flagrant violation of FR rules.

In Brian's case, I just wanted to be quite a bit more earnest than a public forum could handle. I cannot tell you why I felt this way. But I decided to be pretty clear about my views in a private e-mail--which I explicitly refused to give him permission to post, of course. (This was not a matter of cowardice on my part, but a matter of decorum in FR's protocols.) Now, since he posted the e-mail against my instructions, I gather that a lot of people will now know how concerned about my Roman Catholic friends (and now, I guess, my Roman Catholic enemies) I am.

On balance, however, the situation is fine with me. Really. If the Admin Moderator and Jim Robinson conclude that it's best for me to go, I am not worried in the least for myself. I have lots of stuff to do.

So, it's a win/win situation for me.

No matter what happens over this flap, I will continue to pray for Free Republic.

192 posted on 05/04/2002 11:59:50 AM PDT by the_doc
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To: RnMomof7;xzins; fortheDeclaration; Revelation 911; winstonchurchill; Corin Stormhands
Hey Mom. I thought you Calvinists NEVER push the abuse button!!!! You want to explain how post # 165 suddenly disappeared after you flagged the Admin Moderator and JR?

Don't EVER again say that you Calvinists NEVER push the abuse button!!

Frankly, it seems to me that lately you push most everyone's abuse button everytime you post a comment.

193 posted on 05/04/2002 12:00:48 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Make that post 166
194 posted on 05/04/2002 12:03:11 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: the_doc
Thanks for your intervention, RnMom! You do know something about publishing an e-mail to get me in trouble, don't you? [LOL]

The big difference is I did not know what the result would be I had no "evil " intent...this is a far different situation..

195 posted on 05/04/2002 12:05:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: P-Marlowe
Excuse me ...you guys are the ones that posted all the flags to JR and the monitor..do you think they are blind?..What makes you think it was me Marlowe ? Do you have some "inside" information or something?

I will tell you that I take scripture very seriously and the measure you use to measure other IS the measure used to measure you

196 posted on 05/04/2002 12:08:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
RIGHT!

(I already knew that, BTW.)

197 posted on 05/04/2002 12:09:51 PM PDT by the_doc
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To: RnMomof7
In general many Calvinist feel the other religions are adversary of the Lord.

I too have gotten scathing letters from your co-horts in the pass and some are still on my private mail list. Its wrong and it is not of the Lord people should act like this, Calvins are one of many.

198 posted on 05/04/2002 12:10:35 PM PDT by restornu
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To: P-Marlowe
I support Mom with pushing the abuse. In this case it was needed. Thank you Mom.
199 posted on 05/04/2002 12:10:57 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
Wrigley read This post...:>)
200 posted on 05/04/2002 12:15:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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