[Catholicguy]

Excellent piece. Isn't it amasing that almost 40 years have passed since the Infallible Vatican II Ecumenical Council and nowhere on Earth can one find a Mass that the Church Fathers desired.

One must remember that a Bishop's Synod voted NOT to accept the Mass of Paul VI the first time they saw it "performed." Now, it is the normative Mass and it is valid. But, it is artificial and did not result from an organic growth.

OK, I admit to being provocative in using the "Infallible" descriptive adjective when it is really tautological as ALL Ecumenical Councils are infallible by their nature.

I can't explain why we don't have the Mass that Vatican II desired. I just know we are living through a period of profound confusion and darkness that shows no signs of a quick and dramatic reform. The Bishops that countenanced the perverts in the seminaries and were complicit in the sex scandals are the very same ones who retain authority to decide the steps taken to correct the abuses. Come on... THe NCCB does not want to relinquish power. Breathes there a Catholic who thinks THEY desire a Mass like Vatican Two desired? Come on...

Benedicamus Domino for orders like FSSP. I think we have to give ALL credit to the Lord for this order. It is ineluctable that they exist only because of the schism of SSPX. And only God can bring good out of evil.

[ninenot]

I am confused. Unless two very different people share the screen name you use here, your comments regarding kneeling at Communion are almost diametrically opposed to what you state on this response.

Or perhaps you didn't read Fessio's piece (for example, the portion about organic growth, or historicism, or archaism,) and reconcile it with my comments on Jungmann and the "inventor crowd?"