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To: sandyeggo
He reads the biblical passages and then ends them with "the Gospel of the Lord". What is this "incantation" you talk about?

The priest reads a "naked" passage of scripture with no contextual explanation of what was going on at the time the Scripture was written, what the words mean, how it related to the past and the future of Israel, etc. Then he intones "the Gospel of The Lord", and MOVES ON to some other ritual of the mass.

There is no set-up to the scripture BEFORE he reads it, and there is no exposition of the scripture AFTER he reads it. Ergo, there is NO LEARNING on the part of the people, (which is exactly what the RCC secretly WANTS.)

In a good church, the scripture is part of a sermon (usually lasting about 90 minutes in most evangelical churches) which is NOTHING BUT Bible teaching. We read the scripture that forms the sermon text, then learn everything about it. What went before, what came after, how it prophesied something in the future, how it explained something from the past, etc. There is copious note-taking, and we move back in forth in the Bible reading many other scriptures that illuminate the sermon text.

That's what I mean by "incantation". RCC priests read scripture as if the mere pronounciation of the words was what made them of value.

64 posted on 05/06/2002 12:52:21 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
None of what you are saying is my experience. I have had priests explain the "Christology" of the scriptural passage--framing it in the context of when it was written--and I have had some who haven't--it's truths are timeless anyway. Meanwhile, you are not speaking in the charitable way that the gospel commands. We may disagree, but you are full of vitriol. Therefore, berned, you have revealed yourself. I spoke patiently, and you refused to respond to my point about educating yourself with the Catechism to be informed. Hence, like others of your ilk I must say, adieu. I shake my sandals at your berned, because you are not interested in a true dialogue concerning our Lord's truth. (And I never heard of any of the stuff you insisted was being taught, and your tone now leads me to think you are insincere). V's wife.
69 posted on 05/06/2002 4:09:43 PM PDT by ventana
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To: berned
In a good church, the scripture is part of a sermon (usually lasting about 90 minutes in most evangelical churches) which is NOTHING BUT Bible teaching. We read the scripture that forms the sermon text, then learn everything about it. What went before, what came after, how it prophesied something in the future, how it explained something from the past, etc. There is copious note-taking, and we move back in forth in the Bible reading many other scriptures that illuminate the sermon text.

Gee, sounds like the Bible Class at my Church.

71 posted on 05/06/2002 7:08:04 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: berned
In a good church, the scripture is part of a sermon (usually lasting about 90 minutes in most evangelical churches) which is NOTHING BUT Bible teaching.

So you read the bible for a few minutes and hear the pastor talk for 90 minutes. If a Catholic did that, you'd say it demonstrated how unimportant they thought the bible was.

From the above I can see you don't believe in sola scriptura because you listen to the tradition of your pastor for 90 minutes instead of relying on the bible.

79 posted on 05/06/2002 11:39:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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