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To: sandyeggo;berned
This is entirely my point. I did not call your story a lie berned. I was referring to your claim that Catholics don't read the Bible. That is a bald faced lie. There are 4 readings from the Bible within Sunday Mass and the entire Mass is based on Scripture. If you had ever been to a Mass you would have known that. That's how I know you are speaking directly from fundamentalist talking points.

Maybe you went to Catholic schools, maybe you didn't. I went during the 70s and I NEVER was told any of that garbage you claim to have been told. That kind of stuff is what fundamentalists are taught to attack with. My attitude is uncharitable and mean-spirited? Perhaps. But I've been on the receiving end of verbally abusive fundamentalists for far too long and I've had it. To disagree with another's faith is one thing, but to spread lies is quite another.

56 posted on 05/06/2002 11:46:14 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldenstategirl
There are 4 readings from the Bible within Sunday Mass

What about the millions of masses, prior to the advent of English mass which were said IN LATIN? What use were the Bible readings THEN, when no-one even spoke or understood the language? What benefit were the "Bible readings" to common parishoners who had no idea, FOR CENTURIES, what the priests were even saying ?

Even today, the priest reads the words as if they were "magic incantations". There is NO TEACHING regarding what the scriptures are about, what their context is, how it relates to other scriptures. This is how the Roman Catholic Church pays lip service to God's Holy Word while teaching unscriptural LIES like "it's a sin to eat meat on Friday", "there is a place between heaven and hell called 'purgatory'" (which you can BUY your way out of) , "Mary is the intecessor between man and Christ" etc etc etc

speaking directly from fundamentalist talking points.

Fundamentalists engage in Theological debate with Catholics for the exact same reason Jesus endlessly debated with The Pharisees. To correct their man-made religion of "tradition", which was designed to keep people (and their money and their children) in bondage to THEM, and THEIR teachings. Fundamentalists want people to know that Catholic Doctrine is false for the same exact reason Jesus wanted common people to know the true Gospel of Jesus, and that it was at odds with what the powerful, organized, wealthy, elite Pharisees were "teaching".

59 posted on 05/06/2002 12:21:16 PM PDT by berned
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To: goldenstategirl
You told berned: "That kind of stuff is what fundamentalists are taught to attack with. That's how I know you are speaking directly from fundamentalist talking points. "

That is very, very insightful. FUNDAMENTALIST TALKING POINTS. Exactly. They remind me of Moonies sometimes. They all have the same song and dance. Of course if you rebuff them then you are rebuffing Jesus Christ himself. It's almost cult-like the way they operate.

60 posted on 05/06/2002 12:24:44 PM PDT by Theresa
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