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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Generally, Orthodox Presbyterians are strict Providentialists (No NFP, even).

"Generally", huh? What IS the official teaching, exactly? Are you saying not all individuals of Orthodox Presby persuasion are Providentialists when it comes to procreation/sexuality? Oh my... how can that be???

468 posted on 05/01/2002 12:36:56 AM PDT by oremus
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To: oremus, Dr. Brian Kopp, the_doc, Jean Chauvin, Jerry_M
"Generally", huh? What IS the official teaching, exactly? Are you saying not all individuals of Orthodox Presby persuasion are Providentialists when it comes to procreation/sexuality? Oh my... how can that be???

...Because teaching the doctrine of total dependence upon God's Sovereignty in procreation is considered to be the duty of the Local Presbyter, not the General Synod. The Synods have simply mandated that the killing or endangerment of Life (a Decalogual or "Ten-Commandmental" issue) is necessarily an Excommunicable offense.

As it happens, our Ecclesiological lines of Institutional Authority are structured differently from Romanism.

Imagine that.

AND YET... There is not ONE congregation of Calvinists in the world which expressly teaches Five-Point Calvinist Absolute Predestination... and is yet Apostate on the core Moral issues of Homosexuality and Abortion. NOT ONE.

Huh. Imagine that.

The Truth is in front of your eyes.

Yet you see it not.

470 posted on 05/01/2002 12:47:06 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: oremus; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Generally, Orthodox Presbyterians are strict Providentialists (No NFP, even).

"Generally", huh? What IS the official teaching, exactly? Are you saying not all individuals of Orthodox Presby persuasion are Providentialists when it comes to procreation/sexuality?

In defense of OP, he is the only protestant on this forum who has ever acknowledged the validity of the reforers' words regarding Onanism, or even had the courage to address the protestant apostacy on contraception head on.

For this forthrightness and honesty I admire him.

He comes the closest to orthodoxy on Christian sexual morality among all non-Catholics I have ever debated on the issue.

However, since the OP church has no definitive documents on moral theology regarding contraception, I have no way for certain to ascertain that he is truthfully representing the teachings of the OP sect regarding this issue.

One nice thing about being Catholic...agree with us or not, but everyone knows what is official Church teachings on Faith and Morals. We put it right out there for all the world to see, no apologies.

I have yet to witness the OP church fighting the UN on world-wide population control.

If they are indeed the True Church, you would think the pop-con folks would be persecuting them instead of the RCC.

497 posted on 05/01/2002 7:02:53 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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