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Again, these individuals do NOT REPRESENT, NOR WILL THEY EVER CHANGE, THE TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. PERIOD. END OF STORY. They are not little separate "Catholic Churches" running around, as is the case with all of the separate Protestant churches with their differing doctrinal beliefs. You cannot compare the two. Each has their beliefs: if *individuals* within those churches choose to dissent, that does not change the beliefs of the entire said church. Understand???

Again: There are thousands of Individual "Romanist" Congregations which affirm the Roman Catholic "gospel" of Human Moral Competence and Conditional Predestination, which are yet Morally Apostate on Homosexuality and Abortion. I can walk down the street to one right now.

By comparison, there is NOT ONE Congregation of Calvinist Monergists anywhere in the World which is Morally Apostate on Homosexuality and Abortion. If you knew of one, you would say so. So would any FR Romanist. But Morally-Apostate congregations of Five-Point Calvinists DON'T EXIST.

I repeat that : Morally-Apostate congregations of Five-Point Calvinists DO NOT EXIST.

Think about that. THINK for once, oremus. This stuff doesn't just *happen* this way.

The Truth is in front of your eyes.

Yet you see it not.

As for you and contraception, bravo - although waivering on condoms because your brother uses them - well that I don't agree with - it's still the sin of Onan and choosing to cut God out of the equation of procreation/sexuality, due to pride and lack of trust. Judging? What's worse, not telling your brother he sins and risk him losing his soul, or telling him in love as an act of charity? Judging is hardly the same as discerning that someone is in spiritual danger and calling a sin a sin. Who are you more concerned with offending? God, or your brother? As for your brother, he is dissenting, whether in ignorance or in rebellion. He will answer for that, and will be judged fairly I assure you.

Honestly? I am far more concerned that my brother will go to hell if he dies an idolatrous Papist.

A little latex between him and his wife (whether Rome approves or not) is nothing by comparison to my concern in that regard.

Ok, OP, so you have the ONE, TRUE CHURCH - LOL - merely for the reasons you state, which cannot really be proven in the first place! (meaning how can you possibly know the personal beliefs of every single member of the group you speak of??? NO dissenters whatsoever? Hogwash!) Is that what you want to hear? You still make no sense.

I never said there were not dissenting groups in the Catholic Church, or in any church for that matter - but that's all they are - DISSENTERS! By no means do they represent the Church or what it officially teaches. God gave us FREE WILL - there will always be those who ABUSE IT. It's our condition by birth - concupiscence.

Papists going to hell. Like I haven't heard that before. Yawn. You're judging, OP! Judging is condemning someone to hell - BE CAREFUL, OP! Weren't we told NOT TO DO THAT???

POPE: HOLY FATHER