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I already asked him. He said I do not have his permission to share his FReepmail. Typical OP coward.

For the record, the_doc is not an Orthodox Presbyterian, he is a Reformed Baptist (gosh, this is *quite* well known).

I don't object to your affiliating "doc" with the OP church (gosh, I'd be perfectly happy if he *was* orthodox presbyterian), except for three minor reservations:

1.) It is not factual. I.E., it ain't a true statement, it is a lie.
2.) You dare to call OP's cowards... a hilariously vicious charge, given the Orthodox Presbyterian Church's incredibly disproportionate contribution to the Operation Rescue movement, and our steadfast application of Church Discipline in (for example) *immediately* excommuncating an elder found canonically guilty of a *single case* of marital adultery -- as opposed to a certain, un-named, abominable and perverse Institution which shelters degenerate pederasts guilty of hundreds of homosexual rapes. Ergo, the_doc is not an OP (not that I would mind one bit if he were), and OP's aren't cowards. (Good grief, your own dissatisfactions wiith me attend not to my cowardice, but to your distaste for my forthrightness).
3.) Given these facts, then, why would you pretend that "the_doc" is an Orthodox Presbyterian, and label Orthodox Presbytery as "cowards"? Is the Baptist Confession of which "the_doc" is actually a Member too big a target for your slanders? Afraid that labelling "Baptists" as "cowards" would make you too many enemies in one generalization, so instead you slander the smaller target (the Orthodox Presbyterian Church)? Not very sporting, Brian... in fact, rather cowardly.

As always, IMHO.

My sincere apologies OP. I assumed that because he was defended by the OPies here he was part of their group. That impression was reinforced when I briefly reviewed another thread where he had spewed forth his venom, and was defended in doing so by a few OPies.

I have made a grave mistake in lumping him in with you and the other OPies here.

I can publically attest that private FReepmails between you and I have been quite satisfactory, though our debate on several threads has been very heated.

Again, my apologies for my misunderstanding and thus insult to you and your fellow OPies here.

Are the_doc's defenders, Jean Chauvin and RnMomof7, OPies?

Given his screen name and vociferous defense of the_doc, I assumed Jean Chauvin was OP, and I have seen RnMomof7 make many statements consistent with the OP positions. (Of course, there are grave differences to you apparently between OPies and the type of Baptist the_doc represents...but you know us Catholics...all you prots sound alike ;-)

Some comments from a friend, which he graciously agreed to let me post here:

OP, Reformed Baptist, Fundamental Baptist WorldWide Mission...
From *** | 2002-04-30 20:21:38 replied

Dear Brian,

So "the_doc" is a "Reformed Baptist", and OP is, of course, an OP. I suppose a "Reformed Baptist" isn't a "Southern Baptist", which, or course, wouldn't be a "National Baptist", nor, I guess, an "Independent Baptist". Is that anything like an "Anabaptist"?

Maybe we're Catholics cause we're just too lazy to keep track of all the different prots. They're ALL correct, you know!! They ALL have the right interpretation of the Bible, you know!! Except that none of 'em ever agree with each other EXCEPT THAT WE CATHOLICS ARE WRONG!!

I will tell you, Brian, that my faith in the Church has been strengthened over the years watching protestants do "apologetics". It isn't that their arguments are so outlandish. Many of them are quite reasonable! Many of them seem like they could be true! On even important doctrinal issues! But, yet, they still disagree, one with the other! Imagine that! That there could be multiple reasonable interpretations of Scriptures! That it would be nearly impossible to get through the thicket of varying interpretations to the Truth. It's terrible that Jesus left us without any way to know which interpretation is correct. So many are so misguided and lost in sin (whether it's the OP version of things, or the RB, or the SB, or the... whatever interpetation that is right), and there is no way to discern among the many reasonable interpretations! The Church is overcome by error and darkness! Why, in that way, it seems that the gates of Hell have prevailed against His Church. How shall one ever know precisely what is meant by the Gospel of Jesus Christ?!?!?

Oh, wait. I forgot. We're Catholic. This isn't a problem for us. Is it?

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1.) It is not factual. I.E., it ain't a true statement, it is a lie.

How is a lie if the poster didn’t know better? Do you have any proof Dr. Kopp knows the doc’s affiliation? I didn’t know it.

Next question, why do you feel the need to so quickly call people liars? Why the personal attack?

patent +AMDG

Gee O.P., I guess when you look at membership numbers the OrthodoxPresbyterian church has a higher per capita percentage of sexual indiscretions than the Roman Catholic Church.