I believe Ward "the Hobbit" :>) said it to him.I remember the post and thought it strange a Christian would use that imagery.
THE FORMER "WARD" AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONSULTATION AND THIS IS AN EMAIL HE WOULD LIKE POSTED AFTER READING ANOTHER LIE ABOUT HIMSELF (the above). HE DID NOT SAY THE ABOVE, AND ANYONE WHO SAYS HE DID IS EITHER UNWITTINGLY OR INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENTING THE TRUTH.
THE LETTER:
They're still talking about Ward? Even my mother doesn't talk about me that much.
Here's the TRUTH. I was at first concerned that Rn would post the email that set me off. Not because it proved me wrong, but because I knew the kind of calvinist feeding frenzy it would produce. Obviously I was right and they're still thirsty for my blood.
Rn's email to me was in response to my pointing out that she had called the "cross" thread a "Christian thread" because she knew the doctrines of those posting there. She said something like (and this is not a quote) anyone who names the name of Christ is a Christian, there is no litmus test. That disagreed with something else she posted on another thread and I called her on it. I pointed out that she had about 20 posts back and forth with the Mormons on the thread she called a "Christian" thread. Later she referred to the same thread as a "Mormon" thread.
No longer having access to my account is a bit of a hinderance in pulling up some of the things calvinists said before that email, including my being called immature, emotionally unstable, unregenerate, stubborn, blind, pathetic, whiny and by Rn herself a "Christ Hater." (although she did apologize for that about three weeks after the fact). And after the incident and before I left I was call a liar, a weasel, a drama queen, pathetic, passive-agressive (okay, we'll take that - it's a southern thing), and I can't recall what else.
But it was in the context of THOSE posts that I reacted. That I over-reacted. I was steamed and I struck back in anger. That was wrong and I have - on multiple occasions - apologized for that. Quite frankly, what I sent back to Rn in response was worse than what she said to me - initially. What I said to her was wrong. It had some truth in it, but the tone and the words were wrong. I never had the chance to apologize to RnMomof7 for that. I do so now.
When patent said I should've posted it the "attack," I guess I could've been more forceful than "it wasn't a threat." But somehow, I thought that would take care of it.
I clarified that there was a disconnect between the email and the "beat the crap out of statement" but noted I could see how the two were taken together.
Rn initially offered an olive branch of sorts saying "we will allow your mis-speak." I don't know if that was before or after she started distributing the email.
I again clafified that I meant that the calvinists indeed do "beat the crap" out of other posters that dare to disagree with calvinism. No one needs to take my word for that. All the non-calvinists (and some of the honest calvinists) know it to be true.
Now of course the calvinists assert that I left because I was caught in a lie. No, I left because I became the favorite target for their assaults. Again, this is not an exact quote, but I received an email from the_doc that said something like "You have no idea what we are prepared to do."
I see there's been a lot of discussion about doc's "intent," specifically with the email to Dr. Brian Kopp. I'm sure the claim to me will be that "we were going to post the email." But could I know that for sure?
Quite frankly, I panicked. I was never afraid that "Ward" would be exposed. There was nothing to expose. But I realize that I've revealed a lot of personal information over the last few weeks, mostly through prayer concerns. Some that was linked from my profile page, some through the incident with the boys killed in the car accident. I once even directed Rn to a picture of my son (which thankfully is no longer on the web).
I realized that these people could find their way directly to my church door, my home and probably my place of employment.
Paranoia? Probably. Completely unfounded? I don't think so.
So I created a new persona. I don't spend much time on these threads anymore and don't really intend to.
But this should serve as public notice that any attempt to link my new identity with "Ward" will be considered an attempt to expose my personal information.
And you know I can find the abuse key.
Ohhhhhhhhh yes X we do know !! It is "do as we say don't do as we do"..
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
but I received an email from the_doc that said something like "You have no idea what we are prepared to do."Ask Ward if the doc explained this statement at all.
The doc, please explain what you meant. On its face this is a threat, and this needs to be addressed. If that is what he said, IMHO that is it.
patent +AMDG
I have a clue as to what the F.B.I. might do were they to get a copy of that little "warning".
greetings Ward - we miss your company
Tell "Ward" that when these guys are converted, they won't act this way any more. I'm very sad that he was treated this way, and have told him so. There are so many who know from personal experience whereof he speaks.