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To: patent;Jerry_M;OrthodoxPresbyterian.CCWoody;the_doc;Matchett-PI;dittoJed2;Jean Chauvin;Wrigley...
I was asked by Brian not to discuss the Eucharist with him ( yes I do have that mail) I have honored the request..I commented to some extent at the beginning of the thread hoping for a little dialog on the cultural meaning of the words used by Jesus..note no RC chose to talk about that..Brian did his usual Paste and copy spam when he had no answer..a rather obvious attempt to cut off discussion..

No serious personal discussion and personal interaction please..I would rather not have to consider this spam was pasted all over the place..

No you guys do not want to consider the possibility that your belief is built on a foundation of sand..as one told me ..If I found out that Eucharist was not true I would become an atheists (yes I have the mail on that too) ...I find that pathetic and spiritually immature..but every man to his own god

To those that are on this thread soley to do a little back biting and get a little bit of vengence I say to you

The result...Act 14:2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

If this tread was about the Pastor xzins...or about Proud2Brc..the abuse button would have been pushed as the thread exist soley for the puropose of gossip and slander..which is against the FR rules..but the rules only count when it is about you right X..hypocrites all

232 posted on 04/30/2002 10:20:08 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; patent;Jerry_M;OrthodoxPresbyterian.CCWoody;Matchett-PI;dittoJed2;Jean Chauvin;Wrigley...
I read the letter that he sent, Rn. I've seen others that he's sent. It is ODD behavior and a bizarre word choice. You can call me a hypocrite all you want, but the man that sent that email has a deeper problem than an argumentation over the eucharist!

Here the doc's words again for those who've conveniently forgotten their responsibility to the sick and afflicted. Those highlighted in red are personal attacks or unusual things to say. They are the product of a disordered mind.

Judge for yourselves if I'm the one who's concerned or I'm the one who's the hypocrite.

Subject: Re: The True Eucharist The reason why I posted on the Eucharist thread was to address you in particular. I know that you are not a true Christian and that you are "trying" to be one.

Unfortunately, you are not going about it correctly. You are repeating the mistake I once made. The fact is, you are not even trying to be a **Christian.** You are trying to be a Papist. That really is different.

Today's Papacy is a fraud, Brian. You have been badly suckered. And yes, I say that you were before of old ordained to this condemnation (Jude 4). Augustine himself really **would** denounce you if he were alive in our day--and this despite the fact that he was devoted to the idea of the Papacy in his own day (even though Augustine specifically attacked the notion that the Church of Rome was founded on Peter).

Augustine never realized where his own wrongheaded endorsement of the Papacy was headed. But by the 16th century, it was obvious to spiritually sane people that the Papists had become a bunch of murdering, crooked swine, not Christians.

Your "church" is foul, Brian. It is one of the most morally corrupt entities in Christendom. Some Christians regard Romanism as profoundly embarrassing to Christianity. But I certainly don't. The fact is, Papism is obviously not Christian. It is antichristian.

In other words, you have chosen a false gospel. That's why I decided to make one last appeal to you based on your distinctive (and screwy) doctrine of "transubstantiation."

This is why I dare to tell you that I regard you as a silly cannibal, not a real Christian.

My point, Brian, is that your overall theology is making a fool out of you--i.e., revealing that you are anything **but** a Christian. You need to start noticing this. Being a stubbornly superstitious religious dork does not make you wonderfully spiritual. It just makes you a stubbornly superstitious religious dork.

You are a disgrace to your profession , of course.

Please don't assume that I get a kick out of saying this. Heck, our roles could easily have been reversed. I don't look down on you. You even seem like a bright, interesting fellow. But being bright and interesting count for nothing at all with the God of the Bible. You are hereby warned, Brian.

Unfortunately, you don’t like unctuous, clear warnings. I realize that. In fact, you lovely RCs got OP banned for stating **your own doctrine** of the Eucharist in completely **clear** terms. You RCs were profoundly **embarrassed** to hear it stated so clearly. You were speechless when he demonstrated that your supposedly sublime, supposedly lovely doctrine of the Eucharist is actually quite ABSURD and quite MONSTROUS. Ah, but your demonic controller will never let you be reasonable about this stuff. When you start to lose an argument with a Protestant, you try to **silence** him.

You spiritual idiots would rather go to hell than to admit that a Protestant is right in CONDEMNING your ASININE doctrine of the Eucharist. You would rather whine that we don't understand the Eucharist. But we do understand it. We understand from your doctrine that you are idiots and cannibals to boot. We understand that you are spiritually worthless cowards for failing to rise up against Rome and its filthy superstitions. We understand that you are spiritually worthless cowards by conspiring to suppress someone who has the guts which you lack.

What you are doing in your agitation, of course, is simply blaming us Protestants for your own RCC's stupidity. And you do this over and over and over. When we Protestants **point** out that your silly and flagrantly unscriptural priesthood is overrun with filthy little queers, you want to kill us for telling you the **Truth.** You can't stand the Truth. Rather than face the Truth, you try to kill the Truth-teller.

Hey, it has happened before. The Lord Jesus, the Truth Incarnate, was killed by reprobate religionists aligned with Rome, of course. And it is inarguably **true** that the RCC has murdered MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Christians. What else should we expect from cannibals?

Do you see the pattern? Cannibals, cowards, liars, queers, murderers. It really is the stuff in the Book of Revelations. The RCC really is a Whore of Babylon, of Judaizing Apostasy, sitting on a City of Seven Hills.

And I happen to be a saint. Already. It is quite literally the greatest thing in the world. On the other hand, you are--to put it bluntlySatanically --screwed. The saddest thing about this is that it's your own fault.

If you will abandon Rome, I will joyfully receive you as a brother. Failing that, you will stumble and fall right into the hell from which there is no escape--**ever.** Take your choice. Either way, on Judgment Day, I win.

Sent 04/29/2002 1:16 AM by the_doc

241 posted on 04/30/2002 10:56:26 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Revelation 911
I read the letter that he sent, Rn. I've seen others that he's sent. It is ODD behavior and a bizarre word choice. You can call me a hypocrite all you want, but the man that sent that email has a deeper problem than an argumentation over the eucharist!

Here the doc's words again for those who've conveniently forgotten their responsibility to the sick and afflicted. Those highlighted in red are personal attacks or unusual things to say. They are the product of a disordered mind.

Judge for yourselves if I'm the one who's concerned or I'm the one who's the hypocrite.

Subject: Re: The True Eucharist The reason why I posted on the Eucharist thread was to address you in particular. I know that you are not a true Christian and that you are "trying" to be one.

Unfortunately, you are not going about it correctly. You are repeating the mistake I once made. The fact is, you are not even trying to be a **Christian.** You are trying to be a Papist. That really is different.

Today's Papacy is a fraud, Brian. You have been badly suckered. And yes, I say that you were before of old ordained to this condemnation (Jude 4). Augustine himself really **would** denounce you if he were alive in our day--and this despite the fact that he was devoted to the idea of the Papacy in his own day (even though Augustine specifically attacked the notion that the Church of Rome was founded on Peter).

Augustine never realized where his own wrongheaded endorsement of the Papacy was headed. But by the 16th century, it was obvious to spiritually sane people that the Papists had become a bunch of murdering, crooked swine, not Christians.

Your "church" is foul, Brian. It is one of the most morally corrupt entities in Christendom. Some Christians regard Romanism as profoundly embarrassing to Christianity. But I certainly don't. The fact is, Papism is obviously not Christian. It is antichristian.

In other words, you have chosen a false gospel. That's why I decided to make one last appeal to you based on your distinctive (and screwy) doctrine of "transubstantiation."

This is why I dare to tell you that I regard you as a silly cannibal, not a real Christian.

My point, Brian, is that your overall theology is making a fool out of you--i.e., revealing that you are anything **but** a Christian. You need to start noticing this. Being a stubbornly superstitious religious dork does not make you wonderfully spiritual. It just makes you a stubbornly superstitious religious dork.

You are a disgrace to your profession , of course.

Please don't assume that I get a kick out of saying this. Heck, our roles could easily have been reversed. I don't look down on you. You even seem like a bright, interesting fellow. But being bright and interesting count for nothing at all with the God of the Bible. You are hereby warned, Brian.

Unfortunately, you don’t like unctuous, clear warnings. I realize that. In fact, you lovely RCs got OP banned for stating **your own doctrine** of the Eucharist in completely **clear** terms. You RCs were profoundly **embarrassed** to hear it stated so clearly. You were speechless when he demonstrated that your supposedly sublime, supposedly lovely doctrine of the Eucharist is actually quite ABSURD and quite MONSTROUS. Ah, but your demonic controller will never let you be reasonable about this stuff. When you start to lose an argument with a Protestant, you try to **silence** him.

You spiritual idiots would rather go to hell than to admit that a Protestant is right in CONDEMNING your ASININE doctrine of the Eucharist. You would rather whine that we don't understand the Eucharist. But we do understand it. We understand from your doctrine that you are idiots and cannibals to boot. We understand that you are spiritually worthless cowards for failing to rise up against Rome and its filthy superstitions. We understand that you are spiritually worthless cowards by conspiring to suppress someone who has the guts which you lack.

What you are doing in your agitation, of course, is simply blaming us Protestants for your own RCC's stupidity. And you do this over and over and over. When we Protestants **point** out that your silly and flagrantly unscriptural priesthood is overrun with filthy little queers, you want to kill us for telling you the **Truth.** You can't stand the Truth. Rather than face the Truth, you try to kill the Truth-teller.

Hey, it has happened before. The Lord Jesus, the Truth Incarnate, was killed by reprobate religionists aligned with Rome, of course. And it is inarguably **true** that the RCC has murdered MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Christians. What else should we expect from cannibals?

Do you see the pattern? Cannibals, cowards, liars, queers, murderers. It really is the stuff in the Book of Revelations. The RCC really is a Whore of Babylon, of Judaizing Apostasy, sitting on a City of Seven Hills.

And I happen to be a saint. Already. It is quite literally the greatest thing in the world. On the other hand, you are--to put it bluntlySatanically --screwed. The saddest thing about this is that it's your own fault.

If you will abandon Rome, I will joyfully receive you as a brother. Failing that, you will stumble and fall right into the hell from which there is no escape--**ever.** Take your choice. Either way, on Judgment Day, I win.

Sent 04/29/2002 1:16 AM by the_doc

242 posted on 04/30/2002 10:57:05 AM PDT by xzins
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To: RnMomof7
I was asked by Brian not to discuss the Eucharist with him ( yes I do have that mail) I have honored the request..

And you should tell the context! I asked you that because we were having a decent ongoing ecumenical discussion, and as a fellow Christian I did not want to be put in the place of being mutual enemies. If you attack the Real Presence, you attack Christ. And my response will be as if you were attacking Christ, a position I did not want to be in given our friendly conversations at the time.

Brian did his usual Paste and copy spam when he had no answer..a rather obvious attempt to cut off discussion

Your deceptions are getting tiresome!

You know the context!

The_doc claimed early Christians believed John 6 metaphorically.

I posted the beliefs of the early Christians to refute his claim.

Being refuted, instead of continuing the debate, he engaged in personal attack.

You are so far gone its not worth debating you, or any of your OP peers.

When you lose a debate, when historical proof is posted to disprove your lies, thus putting an end to your deceptions, you attack personally and accuse your opponent of spamming the thread.

Pathetic. Pitiful. Lord of mercy on you in your intransigence and sin.

258 posted on 04/30/2002 1:50:57 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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