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To: winstonchurchill
We see countless instances where Paul, just for one example, writes to churches with individual advice. Nothing in the address of the message to a church restricts the nature of the information being conveyed thereto. So much for your so-called "context".

Have it your way. Of course, doesn't it even bother you that you after 6 times being asked you cannot produce the meaning of the gospel? You are free to maintain that Jesus stands at the door of a perverse heart and beggs to be let in, but the mountain of scripture is against you. I must conclude that you really do believe that people are basically good and just need to start acting right. It does kinda move you from the extremes of Arminianism into darker heresies invented by man.

It is becoming more aparent that the Arminians really do not have a gospel message at all....

1,624 posted on 04/30/2002 8:31:59 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Of course, doesn't it even bother you that you after 6 times being asked you cannot produce the meaning of the gospel?... Of course, I'm not really suprised. You don't even know what the gospel is. Less than 5 words wc

Wait a minute, it's coming to me. What we really need is another Calvinist word game? They haven't wrought enough havoc with their predestinarian construct, now they need to attack "the meaning of the Gospel" too. We need to have everyone pestered to see if they can guess some foolish Calvinist construct (which, of course, the Calvinists then equate with "the [otherwise undisclosed] meaning of the Gospel"). It's that good ol' 'mystery religion' nonsense again.

Now, of course, "the meaning of the Gospel" could not be found in a Biblical passage. Those are too long and wordy -- and, worse yet, the Scriptures are mixed with all that evil "Arminian" doctrine which those nice, 5-words-or-less Calvinist formulations neatly avoid. That's why the Calvinist formulations are soooooo much better than the Scriptural ones.

So, we need to learn and focus on the Calvinist "refined Gospel" (5 words or less) -- BTW, is that related to "reformed Egyptian"? -- and avoid the Scriptures at all cost.

No, Woody, I'm sorry. For the mid-double-digit-IQ Calvinists in the group, I have never learned the "Calvinist 5-words-or less gospel", nor do I care to -- this one is quite satisfactory for me:

"For this is the way God loved the world: he gave his one and only Son that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God."

Now, Woody, I realize that exceeds your 5-word attention span -- and, mirabile dictu, it omits all those 'wonderous' TULIP doctrines, all that double predestination nonsense and all that stuff about regeneration having to come before conversion and the other stuff which Calvin made up, but it is a pretty good summary of the Gospel nonetheless.

And I'll take God's Word over your silly 5 words anytime. Sorry, Woody, go pound sand.

1,757 posted on 04/30/2002 7:12:33 PM PDT by winstonchurchill
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