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To: berned
Who then was Paul talking to when he said
Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel

All of Israel: all twelve tribes. And it was Peter, not Paul. Paul's conversion isn't until Acts 9.

Your hair-splitting "depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-Israel-Is" :-) is a fruitless clintonian effort to win an argument, instead of harkening to the word of God.

I hearken to the Word of God just fine, I just don't hearken to your distortion of it.

You've got to be kidding. 99 % of all Bible scholarship says 95 AD.

Placing the word of men above the word of God? I repeat: the book itself says that it describes things that must shortly take place. "Shortly" means "shortly," not "2000 years from now". Incidentally, when Daniel was given his prophetic revelation of the Messiah's coming, God told him to seal the book up, because it was for a distant time. Since when is 2000 years "shortly" and 500 years "a distant time"?

Oh, and St. Irenaeus merely says that that St. John was exiled to Patmos during the reign of Domitian. That does not mean that he was not exiled to Patmos at any point before that time.

O ye of little faith. God actually tells John (in Revelation) to MEASURE the coming Temple!!

That's the old temple, not the new one. It was destroyed in AD 70.

Amazingly, the courtyard which "has been given over to the gentiles" is where the DOME OF THE ROCK stands today!!!

Wrong again. Amazing how far off you are. The Dome of the Rock stands on the eben shetiyah, the foundation stone, which is where the Holy of Holies stood. I believe Josephus describes this stone in some detail.

58 posted on 04/01/2002 12:40:18 PM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
I will pray for you Campion. This thread has been enlightening to me regarding the mindset of Roman catholics.

I've noticed (in this thread and previous ones) that it's imperitive for RC's on these threads to disbelieve that Revelation was written in 95 AD. As if the earth shaking plagues and mark of the beast and such happened in the 1st century but never got reported or something. You are willing to go against virtually all Bible scholarship to cling to the idea that Revelation does not speak of distant future events. It's interesting. Here's a CATHOLIC ENCYlOPEDIA which also places it after the destruction of Jerusalem & the Temple.

It makes me think that simply by accepting the overwhelming concensus of scholarship that Revelation was written 95AD would make many of your RCC beliefs crash and burn.

59 posted on 04/01/2002 1:14:42 PM PST by berned
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