[Quester]

this tells us who overcomes the world, not what overcoming the world means.

Let's look at it again.

I John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Whosoever is born of God (a one-time event) will overcome the world. It is a God-guaranteed given.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Lets look at it again

1 John 5 2This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands.

3This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome,

4for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

Was leaving out the part about "to obey His commands" intentional?

[ventana]

I John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:

Quester: Whosoever is born of God (a one-time event) will overcome the world

Please note the 2 different words. Sounds to me more like God-ly (God led) actions overcome the world for those who believe.

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