saradippity ;JHavard; ventana; CindyDawg; RobbyS
Excuse me for butting in but I just reread the letters to the churches in Apocalypse/Revelations,chapters 2 and 3 and ask that you read it also.To me,it seems impossible to deny that we are judged according to our labours,works,ministries,charity and adherence to doctrine.It also appears that behaviors are included in those things for which we will be judged.And that penance is necessary to rectify failures.
There seems to be no question that man can fall and fail to "overcome" and thereby lose eternal life or the "crown". It talks about resisting temptation and the entire chapters seem to affirm Ventana's contention that one can fall from grace and lose eternal life despite,at one time believing and being faithful.
I would be interested in all of your interpretation of those two chapters since I fail to see how it could be possible to read and understand it differently than I do.But then again I may be one who has eyes but does not see.Thanks for your input. I'ss be especially interested in how you read it JH.
52,217 posted on 05/08/2003 12:23 AM MDT by saradippity
Please see this for another view of Revelation 2 & 3
Matthew 23:39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say,
`Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'" [Psalm 118:26]
Barukh haba b'Shem Adonai
Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord
Y'shua HaMashiach
chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>
Thanks for that additional info on the "churches".
I have always thought that God was unchanging and man's basic nature was unchanging. Therefore scripture is applicable with adaptations for times and places,no matter the original addressees,although that also can be very important.
I think many go beyond the limits when interpreting and others fail to see what is clearly there.To me,trying to expand the letters to encompass the ages of the churches is an example of stretching the limits.
Nonetheless,I always appreciate your responses because they often open up a view that I had not considered.