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To: SoothingDave
If you consider sin as creating a "debt" with God, then God pays our debt Himself.

In the face of our repentance, God could simply say "I forgive you".

I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD";
then thou didst forgive the guilt of my sin. (Psalm 32:5)

Why the need for Jesus to die for this to happen?

51,565 posted on 05/05/2003 2:17:47 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi
In the face of our repentance, God could simply say "I forgive you".

Why the need for Jesus to die for this to happen?

Well, it gives us something to talk about, doesn't it? It's a very dramatic gesture, full of nuance and interpretation. It is such a beautiful tapestry, a fitting denouement to the entire history of salvation.

None of which is strictly necessary, but was what God chose to do.

SD

51,568 posted on 05/05/2003 2:24:02 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: malakhi
"Why the need for Jesus to die for this to happen?"

That could happen because Jesus died.

JM
51,570 posted on 05/05/2003 2:26:58 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: malakhi
Why the need for Jesus to die for this to happen?

So that the angel of death would pass by our house, and we might be delivered alive out of Egypt.

You were joking a bit about Jesus as the Door a while back.
Compare: The blood of the lamb on the branch of Hysop wiped on the doorjambs in the first Passover with the Centurion holding up the Hysop with the wine(blood) for Jesus(door) to drink.

v.

51,576 posted on 05/05/2003 2:38:33 PM PDT by ventana
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To: malakhi
In the face of our repentance, God could simply say "I forgive you".
I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD"; then thou didst forgive the guilt of my sin. (Psalm 32:5)
Why the need for Jesus to die for this to happen?


Perhaps to instill in us the understanding of the utter dreadfulness of sin. If death were not required to atone for sin, would we regard it (sin) so seriously ?

If one of your children were to merely receive forgiveness (aside from any punishment) when they misbehaved, ... would they regard their misbehaviour as such a serious issue ?

Also, ... isn't death not merely the penalty for sin, ... but, ultimately, ... the ultimate consequence of sin, ... whether God acts to punish or not ?

Was it not merely one generation from the fall that sin led to death (of Abel) ?

Does anyone doubt that, except we be stayed by some strong hand, ... we would have, ... or ultimately will ... utterly destroy ourselves along with the remainder of God's earthly creation ?

51,578 posted on 05/05/2003 2:48:49 PM PDT by Quester
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