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To: newgeezer
"Eustachy" even sounds like something we shouldn't be doing.

"Your honor, the defendent was witnessed by over 25 people in the throes of uncontrollable eustachy. This alone is punishable by law."

SD

51,243 posted on 05/02/2003 11:08:40 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Re. #50417

In response to Catechism 1390 "Since Christ is sacramentally present under each of the species, communion under the species of bread alone makes it possible to receive all the fruit of Eucharistic grace. . . . "

I asked:

"Is Jesus physically present, body and blood, for all the sacraments?"

To which you replied:

"In the person of the priest for sacraments where the preist is the celebrant."

"But other than that, no it is a spiritual presence, or a spiritual outpouring of gifts."
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I asked the "physically present . . . " question because I was confused by the Catechism's use of "sacramentally present" to justify the validity of communion under one kind.

Your answer seems to say this is so only when the priest is the celebrant.

My understanding is the Priest is the celebrant at all the sacraments except Matrimony. Am I wrong? Are you saying the priest is the celebrant only for the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist?

Sacrament of Baptism
Sacrament of Confirmation
Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist
Sacrament of Penance
Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick
Sacrament of Holy Orders
Sacrament of Matrimony

According to my understanding of what you said, I assume you believe Jesus is present, body and blood, even when the bread and wine are not present.

Do you see my confusion?

Are you saying communion is not necessary at all?

51,257 posted on 05/02/2003 11:41:58 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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