[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

We can judge a person by the acts that he has committed and come to the judgement that he pretty much is not saved, but we can't be sure, only he and God knows for sure. But at the same time kick his butt out from serving and fellowship until he repents and pays the price for his actions.

BigMack

[SoothingDave]

We can judge a person by the acts that he has committed and come to the judgement that he pretty much is not saved, but we can't be sure, only he and God knows for sure. But at the same time kick his butt out from serving and fellowship until he repents and pays the price for his actions.

I agree completely. Ipev has gone farther, claiming to know for a fact that such a man is "reprobate" and that he has no faith. I keep trying to tell him that that decision is not ours to make.

SD