[RobbyS]

But it does mean that the Holy Spirit chose to make use of our Blessed Lady, although he had no absolute need of her, in order to become actively fruitful in producing Jesus Christ and his members in her and by her. This is a mystery of grace unknown even to many of the most learned and spiritual of Christians.

I know you don't like the extravagant language, but try anaylzing this calmly and rationally. I was revolted by the first time I saw people speaking in tongues, but....

He thinks of Mary somewhat much as Arius thought of Jesus, EXCEPT that he never speaks of Mary as anything thing other than human. The poet said it" Our tainted nature's solitary boast."

[biblewonk]

But it does mean that the Holy Spirit chose to make use of our Blessed Lady, although he had no absolute need of her, in order to become actively fruitful in producing Jesus Christ and his members in her and by her. This is a mystery of grace unknown even to many of the most learned and spiritual of Christians.

I know you don't like the extravagant language, but try anaylzing this calmly and rationally. I was revolted by the first time I saw people speaking in tongues, but....

He thinks of Mary somewhat much as Arius thought of Jesus, EXCEPT that he never speaks of Mary as anything thing other than human. The poet said it" Our tainted nature's solitary boast."

However,

Human? This is not news.