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To: RobbyS
*** I say this because I have been reading Revelations and I think that Billy Sunday's fire and brimestone sermons were quite appropriate. Not much of gentle Jesus here!***

I agree, but would substitute Jonathan Edwards for Billy Sunday.

Ever read Edwards', "The Justice of God in the Damnation of Sinners"? Quite powerful.

So that sin against God, being a violation of infinite obligations, must be a crime infinitely heinous, and so deserving of infinite punishment.- Nothing is more agreeable to the common sense of mankind, than that sins committed against any one, must be proportionably heinous to the dignity of the being offended and abused; as it is also agreeable to the word of God, I Samuel 2:25. "If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him;" (i.e. shall judge him, and inflict a finite punishment, such as finite judges can inflict;) "but if a man sin against the Lord, who shall entreat for him?" This was the aggravation of sin that made Joseph afraid of it. Genesis 39:9. "How shall I commit this great wickedness, and sin against God?" This was the aggravation of David's sin, in comparison of which he esteemed all others as nothing, because they were infinitely exceeded by it. Psalm 51:4. "Against thee, thee only have I sinned."-The eternity of the punishment of ungodly men renders it infinite: and it renders it no more than infinite; and therefore renders no more than proportionable to the heinousness of what they are guilty of.


http://www.ccel.org/e/edwards/sermons/justice.html
50,290 posted on 04/30/2003 7:17:06 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
I agree, but would substitute Jonathan Edwards for Billy Sunday.

Ya mean that "Crossing Over" guy? ;-)

SD

50,294 posted on 04/30/2003 7:20:11 AM PDT by SoothingDave (It might behoove me to be heaved)
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To: drstevej
Have you seen Pasolini's Gospel according to St. Matthew? To me it was an eye-opener. The actor was the most Semitic-looking person I have ever seen in the role of Jesus, complete with single eyebrow! And nothing soft about him! A complex figure: gentleness and firmness are found in equal proportions. [I have heard that Passolini was a Communist. If so, give me more communist directors, because he didn't sugar-coat "Matthew."] The passion was much less violent that I expected given the starkness of what went before. But "Jesus" preached more like Edwards than Bill Graham.
50,428 posted on 04/30/2003 9:51:10 AM PDT by RobbyS
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