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To: SoothingDave
At the Last Supper, it became apparent that the eating of His Flesh would be done under the appearance of bread and Wine. IT all clicked together.

All clicked together? LOL. Yeah, right. It just made sense out of the blue because now it was bread and wine instead of a present tense directive to 'be ye therefore canibals' in John 6. Sure it makes sense now that you say it's just bread and wine and it's just a remembrance and these things are merely symbolic - oops went too far didn't I. When it is symbolic it doesn't make sense because they have to eat the book of the new covenant and lord knows one can't eat words - right. Not unless it's symbolic anyway - as in the OT examples of it being said and done.

It was only after the Resurrection, that Jesus commanded Baptism to be done that it became efficacious.

But you're mixing apples and oranges - Jesus' baptism is of spirit. He didn't command that people be dunked in water to get the spirit. He commanded that people be born again through belief and confessing Christ, then that they be baptised of the Holy spirit. No mention of water Baptism - much less of it becoming an all in one fix that some religions have seen fit to try and teach it as being. Form above substance.

49,131 posted on 04/28/2003 12:43:02 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
He didn't command that people be dunked in water to get the spirit.

Jesus sent the Apostles out to baptise the nations. As we are told repeatedly, the Greek word for "baptism" refers to dunking in water.

Once again, a secret code real meaning is needed, rather than what the text says.

SD

49,132 posted on 04/28/2003 12:52:36 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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