[drstevej]

You might want to check out Menno Simons (16th century Anabaptist) who held to the doctrine of the celestial flesh of Christ [i.e. Jesus brought his flesh from heaven and was born in but not of Mary].

http://ontruth.com/menno.html

Menno did not originate the doctrine but he did defend it in writing. Another holding similar views included Melchior Hoffman. I know of no 16th or 17th century Protestant that embraced his view. Many condemned it.

I have a copy of Menno's Complette Writings but have not read his treatise on Celestial Flesh in many years.

Menno would however argue that this issue has theological implications. A google search might provide research materials for you or biblewonk

[OLD REGGIE]

Reggie, you don't get it. It is not the words one is meditating on. Not at all.

Dave, you just don't get it. It isn't possible to meditate while going through a rapid fire verbal exercise.

[SoothingDave]

Interesting, thanks. I find this curious:

In Incarnation of Our Lord, Menno set forth his case for the celestial flesh of Jesus with two main arguments. First, he believed that Scripture proved the exclusive origin of a child from his father and applied that principle to Christ and His Heavenly Father. He wrote, "[H]uman procreation occurs by the marital intimacy of husband and wife. . . but from the male sperm. The new life has its origin not in the father, but comes from the father through the mother. .

It would seem that our understanding of chromosones would put this to rest. Life does not "originate" with the man "through the mother" but is from a combination of the two.

SD

[RobbyS]

You might want to check out Menno Simons (16th century Anabaptist) who held to the doctrine of the celestial flesh of Christ [i.e. Jesus brought his flesh from heaven and was born in but not of Mary]

Isn't this also an early(2nd century) gnostic teaching?