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To: Quester
Re 48688

Yes, and they went out and ordained other bishops, who shared in their authority. Remember Titus, Paul instructs him to act with all authority.

Yes, Paul granted to Titus all of the authority necessary for his calling (that of a Bishop ... or overseer of a church, I believe).

I didn't see that. It would seem you are reading this into the text. Mine simply says "all authority" not "all authority necessary to be a bishop."

That didn't make Titus an Apostle, nor is he ever referred to as an Apostle. All of those who are called Apostles in the Bible were witnesses to the resurrected Christ.

Yes, we make the distinction as well. Those who came after the Apostles are not apostles. But they do inherit the authority of the office. Not a limited (how?) authority of a "bishop" as opposed to apostolic authority, but the full authority given by Jesus to His Twelve.

(Didn't these very bishops hundreds of years later establish the canon?)

SD

48,907 posted on 04/28/2003 6:43:38 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Hey Dave you're back. Boy do you have a big alledged "mess" to clean up. :-)
48,908 posted on 04/28/2003 6:45:41 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: SoothingDave
Yes, we make the distinction as well. Those who came after the Apostles are not apostles. But they do inherit the authority of the office. Not a limited (how?) authority of a "bishop" as opposed to apostolic authority, but the full authority given by Jesus to His Twelve.

They, obviously, did not inherit the foundational ministry of the Apostles, since JESUS and the Apostles completed that particular ministry and all other valid ministry is built upon that already established foundation.
1 Corinthians 3:11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ."

EPHESIANS 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone.
(Didn't these very bishops hundreds of years later establish the canon?)

Yes ... as directed by God, bishops established the collection of pre-existing Apostolic writings.

They wrote nothing (canonically) new, nor taught anything which was not contained within these Apostolic writings which God established through their service.

48,955 posted on 04/28/2003 8:07:37 AM PDT by Quester
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