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To: Quester
This might be viable if the phrase was ... ... nothing profits the flesh ... But, that isn't what it says. It says ... ... the flesh profits nothing ...

OK, I'll buy that. It is an awkward phrase.

So, what JESUS is saying is that ... the flesh (whose flesh ... His flesh ... that's the flesh that He's been talking about) ... profits ... nothing (or nobody).

Here's where I rent my garment. If Jesus' flesh does no good for nobody, then the Crucifixion is pointless.

If His Flesh is good for nothing, it would certainly not serve as a vessel for God to become incarnate in.

So, I can't buy this explanation. It is nonsensical. Jesus tells us how his Flesh is given for the Life of the World, and then He says that his Own Flesh is worthless.

Peter says that they (the remaining disciples) have noone else to go to ... for only JESUS has the words of life. Peter, then, goes on to affirm that they believe JESUS testimony of Himself ... that He is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Yes, but those words have a meaning. If I affirm that your words are very important, this does nto mean that I dismiss what you say, rather that I pay very close attention to what you say.

SD

48,648 posted on 04/25/2003 1:19:02 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Here's where I rent my garment. If Jesus' flesh does no good for nobody, then the Crucifixion is pointless.

If His Flesh is good for nothing, it would certainly not serve as a vessel for God to become incarnate in.

So, I can't buy this explanation. It is nonsensical. Jesus tells us how his Flesh is given for the Life of the World, and then He says that his Own Flesh is worthless.


Here, ... He is speaking to the question of the moment ... (that which had the disciples in consternation) ... of the literal eating of His flesh, ... rather than of His Incarnation or Sacrifice.

48,655 posted on 04/25/2003 1:29:14 PM PDT by Quester
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To: SoothingDave
Here's where I rent my garment. If Jesus' flesh does no good for nobody, then the Crucifixion is pointless.

Faulty logic Dave. If one eats the coconut, he does not eat the shell but that which is within it. The shell serves a purpose; And breaking it can be tough; but, is it not discarded upon the doing as ineffectual. The purpose of the crucifixion was not to make us a meal, it was to release what was contained in the shell - Jesus' spirit. You can't understand the spiritual if you are always stuck on the flesh. And this is why your logic fails. You need to look at the spiritual aspect where Jesus said the profit was.

48,735 posted on 04/26/2003 5:04:32 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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