Sure the natural order can be violated, but when it comes to angels God did not create them with the ability to reproduce with humans. Why would he? If they could manifest human bodies they might be able to, but it's doubtful that God even gave them the power to reproduce. Angels and humans are different kinds, as differenet as elephants and horses.
In Enoch, non-canonized writing, nonetheless the half brother of Jesus and more than a few anti-nicene fathers viewed it as scripture, it explains that demons are the spirits of the nephilim, the offspring of fallen angels and humans. Since they were conceived in this earthly realm it is required they remain here until the fulfillment of all things.
Interesting...not inspired, but interesting. :-)
But he was still just a man (verses 24-25, 33)—not some human-demonic hybrid.
This argument holds no water since the nephilim were half human.
God could have said "My spirit will not strive with man nor nephalim forever...". That would have been clearer if that were the case. It's like saying there's a bunch of half dog/half human people running around. It just can't happen.
There are a few problems with this. If the godly line of Seth intermarry with the ungodly line of Cain, why do only males from the godly line procreate with females from the ungodly line?
Easy. They were the fast and loose women... :-)
Also right before the flood Noah and his family were the only righteous. What happened to all the rest of the godly line of Seth?
They corrupted.
For someone who's an advocate for the gap theory and pre-adamic civilization, I'm surprised you don't believe this. :-)
I'm not sure I would characterize it as believing in a pre-adamic civilization. There is a chance that there were human looking creatures around before Adam and Eve, but my belief is more along the lines that they angels (eventually fallen) were given the habitation of earth originally. They sinned and the earth was destroyed and corrupt until the restoration by God.
Interesting discussion eh?:-)
He didn't create gay people to stick things in the wrong cavities either. By the way, angels can manifest human bodies. Abraham entertained 3 of them on the way to Sodom that sat down and ate with him. Called them men even. Gideon dined with one. There are other examples as well.
God could have said "My spirit will not strive with man nor nephalim forever...". That would have been clearer if that were the case.
Could have but didn't. Wouldn't have been clearer to us since scripture is the roadmap for our redemption, not angels.
It's like saying there's a bunch of half dog/half human people running around.
Not its not.
It just can't happen.
But it did.
Easy. They were the fast and loose women... :-)
Ya right. And only the Godly line of Seth males get horny.:-) Also right before the flood Noah and his family were the only righteous. What happened to all the rest of the godly line of Seth?
They corrupted.
Then why call them the sons of God? Can't have it both ways.
I'm not sure I would characterize it as believing in a pre-adamic civilization. There is a chance that there were human looking creatures around before Adam and Eve, but my belief is more along the lines that they angels (eventually fallen) were given the habitation of earth originally. They sinned and the earth was destroyed and corrupt until the restoration by God.
Either way, a pre-adamic civilization.
Interesting discussion eh?:-)
Sure is. 48,505 posted on 04/25/2003 9:58 AM PDT by DouglasKC