[SoothingDave]

I assert there was only one born perfect and that was Jesus.

By golly, you've finally got it. To become perfect.

So it's a question of timing?

If God acts on you after you are born, in a completely gratuitous way to rescue you from sin, that does not make you divine, though you are a human whose soul is made perfect.

On the other hand, if God acts on Mary before she is born, in a completely gratuitous way to resuce her from sin, that makes her divine?

SD

[OLD REGGIE]

If God acts on you after you are born, in a completely gratuitous way to rescue you from sin, that does not make you divine, though you are a human whose soul is made perfect.

On the other hand, if God acts on Mary before she is born, in a completely gratuitous way to resuce her from sin, that makes her divine?

Just who made this claim? I certainly didn't.