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IS AMERICA THE BABYLON OF THE APOCALYPSE (THE REVELATION TO JOHN)?

Revelation 18: 1-3  "After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority; and the earth was made bright with hid splendor.  And he called out with a mighty voice, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!  It has become the dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird; for all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness."

48,172 posted on 04/22/2003 3:05:10 PM PDT by tHe AnTiLiB (Pray in reparation for the sins of the world, like Jesus did.)
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
IS AMERICA THE VATICAN THE BABYLON OF THE APOCALYPSE (THE REVELATION TO JOHN)?
48,173 posted on 04/22/2003 3:13:54 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
IS AMERICA THE BABYLON OF THE APOCALYPSE (THE REVELATION TO JOHN)?

Uh, no. Babylon is defined in scripture and there are a few hints as to the identity even within the verse you reference. Fornication in spiritual terms is to cheat on God - ie to dabble in pagan beliefs and practices up to and including worship of pagan or strange gods. It is, in short, a religion. It is a religion defined by it's name and it's location - Rome. It is a religion who the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from - the selling of trinkets, of apparel, of candles.. you name it. It is a religion that exists in all nations. And it is the religion of kings around the world. Doesn't leave much anything to the imagination. It is defined but it doesn't have to be. No other religion fits this definition. And it is not necessarily limited to the Roman Brand, Orthodoxy has the same roots and has shared with Rome some of the same errors. Whether the scriptural reference includes Orthodoxy or not is immaterial; but, it should give the orthodox reason for pause.

48,174 posted on 04/22/2003 3:18:03 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
"Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! It has become the dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird; for all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness."

Hmmm... say, what is your opinion of the war with Iraq?

48,225 posted on 04/22/2003 7:42:23 PM PDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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