[malakhi]

I just don't see the passages you cite as being incompatible with, or mutually exclusive of, what I said.

Is that you SoothingDave?

LOL, no, no spin. Let me see if I can better explain what I meant.

Here is an analogy. Suppose we have two people. One is a truck driver, and the other is an electrical engineer. They both own television sets. The truck driver has the owners manual and the remote control, and can operate the television without trouble. But he doesn't know how the television works. The engineer understands everything that goes on inside the box.

Following this analogy, the person who "calls upon the name of YHWH" is the man who owns the television. He trusts in YHWH for salvation, but he doesn't understand how it works. The truck driver can tell you that the television works (the one who calls upon YHWH can tell you that God saves us). The engineer can tell you how the television works (which would be analogous to the quotes you cited to me).

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Ain't you tired of being JUST a truck driver? Its time to step up in the world! By now you have been thru my engineering school enough to understand, I here by declare you a certified engineer.

BigMack

[OLD REGGIE]

Here is an analogy. Suppose we have two people. One is a truck driver, and the other is an electrical engineer. They both own television sets. The truck driver has the owners manual and the remote control, and can operate the television without trouble. But he doesn't know how the television works. The engineer understands everything that goes on inside the box.

Now I know it's SoothingDave speaking.

Dave, how did you post this under malakhi's signature?