[Havoc]

You don't have to remind me of your aversion from good ideas.

Has nothing to do with me and you're dodging. Where in scripture does it say that good ideas tell us how God functions? I'll even add to it to give you a clue. Where does it say your ideas trump God's statements?

[SoothingDave]

Havoc, there isn't enough time in the world for me to straighten you out. You do have an aversion to any idea that did not originate in your own mind.

You admit to selecting "history" to read that only strokes your own pre-conceptions. It's simply pointless for us to discuss things.

Your mind is made up and you are so enamored of your fancy ideas that you are unreachable. If you would merely cease telling slander about the Church we could go our separate ways. But as long as you preach your unsubstantiated nonsense, I have to humor you.

SD