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To: biblewonk; Havoc
What about children, the mentally retarded, etc.? Have they sinned?

Yes!

All have sinned - all.

At least you guys are consistent. I am wondering how you look at a newborn baby and see a sinner, but you don't do that do you?

Instead you look in the Bible and that's that. Experience and sense play no part. SD

47,710 posted on 04/21/2003 10:31:33 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave; Havoc; biblewonk
Instead you look in the Bible and that's that. Experience and sense play no part. SD

How dare they take God at his Word.

BigMack

47,712 posted on 04/21/2003 10:37:42 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: SoothingDave
Instead you look in the Bible and that's that. Experience and sense play no part.

Your reason is not for reinterpreting black and white statements into something more to your liking. Jesus didn't say 'take what I said or make it up as you go - all the same thing..' It is God's word - not that of Jesus or of the Apostles but God's. It is HIS message that was delivered to us. And none of us has the authority to change what he has said nor the wisdom to second guess Him. That is your error - you think you have some right to change what his word says if you so choose. You think it's just some fancy club apparently where the rules don't really matter - it's the company. That isn't Christianity. It may be Catholicism; but, it's plain obvious which of us is following what. You reject and contest the Apostles time after time and pretend that you keep to their words because you have some creed that says you do. How pathetic is that. I really wish you could wake up to it, Dave. You're far too intelligent not to understand the errors you espouse. Perhaps too smart for you're own good. Maybe you should stop playing in philosophy and try trusting God's word instead. But the scripture is prophetic in saying that for those who come to knowledge and are led astray it is better that they had never learned at all.

47,738 posted on 04/21/2003 11:31:56 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: SoothingDave; biblewonk; Havoc
At least you guys are consistent. I am wondering how you look at a newborn baby and see a sinner, but you don't do that do you?

Instead you look in the Bible and that's that. Experience and sense play no part.


Right here!

SoothingDave 1:
1 All, except Mary, are stained with "Original Sin".

47,741 posted on 04/21/2003 11:33:50 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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To: SoothingDave; Havoc; newgeezer
At least you guys are consistent. I am wondering how you look at a newborn baby and see a sinner, but you don't do that do you?

So to you the bible SHOULD read "All but babies have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"?

47,836 posted on 04/21/2003 1:38:55 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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